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iPhone-Elite

I think we should include all this old stuff before it gets lost: code.google.com/p/iphone-elite/. I mean the wiki articles there. Most infos should be already here, but I'm sure a lot of things are missing too. --http 15:02, 26 June 2012 (MDT)

Boot-args cleanup

We need to clean up the boot-args pages. First the technical part: What I understand is that iBoot loads the kernel. And when loading it, it can pass some parameters to select certain behavior. So this only works with an iBoot or bootrom exploit. I understand that in earlier firmware versions there was simply an iBoot variable, but that doesn't exist or work anymore, now passing theses args requires a different or patched iBoot. There are various parameters in different kernel versions. The description for these arguments is scattered over various places:

So what do we want to do about this mess? I suggest to move the current Kernel content to the redirect page Boot arguments (or to another new page, maybe boot-args). The current content of Boot-args (iBoot variable) and all other content should get merged into there. Then change all references to this new page and on the Kernel page write just something short with "main article there". What do you think? --http (talk) 21:31, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

I like Boot Arguments. --5urd (talk) 02:01, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
One addition: Maybe we should use boot-args as the main page, because all links are written like that. --http (talk) 07:37, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

The iPhone Wiki re-design

The design of the iPhone wiki is now quite old and I think it should be updated. I made a concept. --Jaggions (talk) 10:30, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

I disagree. If anything add an iPhone 5 to the logo but everything else is ok. --iAdam1n (talk) 11:05, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
I wouldn't change the logo to an iPhone 5, especially with iOS 7 and a new iPhone (that will probably look the same as the 5, admittedly) around the corner. I contemplated updating the CSS for iOS 7's UI but decided not to because of the UI's supposed volatility (during the beta period) and I don't have a live version to toy around with. (I personally don't like its current state, but that's not a factor in why I'm not changing it yet.) --Dialexio (talk) 16:25, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
Can we not do flat? --Haifisch (talk) 21:02, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
This is what I was thinking. When iOS 7 finally comes out, we could change the CSS to look like that instead. --5urd (talk) 21:11, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
iOS 7 looks ugly. We do not want it like that. Maybe a bit more modern but nothing much. --iAdam1n (talk) 21:16, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
You may not want it like that. That's your opinion. --5urd (talk) 01:55, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
We could make a poll, and see if most users agree or disagree. --Jaggions (talk) 10:05, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
The idea looks nice. But before we make any changes, let's wait until iOS7 comes out. And I'd prefer to just add another skin instead (if possible). I'm still using the classic MonoBook skin by the way. You shouldn't impose design changes to everyone. --http (talk) 14:38, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
The problem with skins is that geohot needs to set them up... An idea I have is that we copy the Vector skin verbatim to a new skin (iOS6) and move the modifications (not general stuff) to Mediawiki:iOS6.css. Then we can do another verbatim copy to iOS7 and modify Mediawiki:iOS7.css. We could then set the default skin to either iOS6 or iOS7 so you don't need to be logged in to see them like currently. Then if someone doesn't like them, like you, just change your settings to your preferred skin. The only way around needing geohot is if he opens up the credentials to FTP or whatever to someone. --5urd (talk) 21:17, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
I like 5urd's suggestion. --iAdam1n (talk) 22:29, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

What about just removing the text-shadow element for now? I think pages would be easier to read without it. Here's an example: File:Noshadow.png. Britta (talk) 00:11, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

Yeah removing the shadow will make everything seem more flat but like http I'm still using the classic MonoBook skin --Jaggions (talk) 21:19, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

Hacker page

I would like to be added to the list of hackers for my work with the Private Dev Team and the Chronic Dev Team in addition to my release of the Phoenix Semi-Untethered. --Ph0enix (talk) 18:36, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

Did you find any exploits? --Haifisch (talk) 18:54, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
No. phyrrus9, a team member found the vulnerability. I am the one who exploited it. --Ph0enix (talk)
I can back up this "claim". I was a part of it. --5urd (talk) 20:52, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

Orphaned articles

This is an interesting search: Special:LonelyPages - "The following pages are not linked from or transcluded into other pages in The iPhone Wiki." I'm not sure where all of those articles should be linked, but figuring that out could be a useful project for somebody. Britta (talk) 05:57, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

Easy tasks for new editors

Key page links for A5+

I was thinking, so we do not clog up wanted pages, I think we should not link to pages for A5+ that have not been created due to it is not possible so we could just use the black text. It is annoying to see all that red when you also click them accidentally. Of course IF ever an exploit is found, this can be changed. --iAdam1n (talk) 15:11, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

For me it doesn't matter if a few page links are red. We want to link and have them anyway some day in the future. But if you feel better when there are no links, I'm fine with that too. Wait for some other opinions before changing it. --http (talk) 23:09, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
I do prefer it. I will wait until the 7 days are up anyway. --iAdam1n (talk) 23:19, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
I personally don't mind seeing them. I vote to leave them. It would be a massive undertaking. As for the wanted pages list, I might be able to cook up some JavaScript to take care of it. --5urd (talk) 18:20, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
That could work. --iAdam1n (talk) 20:57, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

Changing "Build" on Firmware and Beta Firmware

I was going to post this on the talk page of "Firmware", but then I realized it would involve creation of many pages, so I'm posting here.
What I'm proposing is we change the Firmware's and Beta Firmware's device's "Build" column to look like this (iPhone 2G used) [links removed to save bytes]:

Version Baseband Codename Build Release Date IPSW Download URL SHA1 Hash Comments File Size
1.0 03.06.01_G Alpine 1A420 ? iphoneproto.zip 6e798e906c6590a7521ef89b731569be6d05b3aa Prototype; macrumors 109,813,128
03.11.02_G Heavenly 1A543a 29 Jun 2007 iPhone1,1_1.0_1A543a_Restore.ipsw fb8bb3ee2e9a997affbb97868599f2995c78209c Initial US shipment. 95,604,348
1.0.1 03.12.08_G SUHeavenlyJuly 1C25 31 Jul 2007 iPhone1,1_1.0.1_1C25_Restore.ipsw a00b85a7a55d62a94be5fbf5effbc42fd63f3097 95,627,958
1.0.2 03.14.08_G 1C28 21 Aug 2007 iPhone1,1_1.0.2_1C28_Restore.ipsw 7f5c0ff1f84a0202b75a55c3fcb362e415334d1e 95,627,324
1.1.1 04.01.13_G Snowbird 3A109a 27 Sep 2007 iPhone1,1_1.1.1_3A109a_Restore.ipsw d441dd1c71ce18f25d8fc4faa71c1e6eaa02d02c 159,668,150
1.1.2 04.02.13_G Oktoberfest 3B48b 12 Nov 2007 iPhone1,1_1.1.2_3B48b_Restore.ipsw 797c02e7d660940e8d9a16cc7229ccf3f67dd8b1 Initial Euro shipment. 167,927,501
1.1.3 04.03.13_G Little Bear 4A93 15 Jan 2008 iPhone1,1_1.1.3_4A93_Restore.ipsw b3dec7580bd00dc4faf28449d9618ef40aeacc96 169,950,551
1.1.4 04.04.05_G 4A102 26 Feb 2008 iPhone1,1_1.1.4_4A102_Restore.ipsw 000811bac096011b50ebf6ec1ec2285b62fda4cb 169,946,442
2.0 04.05.04_G Big Bear 5A347 11 Jul 2008 iPhone1,1_2.0_5A347_Restore.ipsw 9c510a3cfce789fa5f92a8f763c231bac82ff6d4 228,768,637
2.0.1 5B108 04 Aug 2008 iPhone1,1_2.0.1_5B108_Restore.ipsw 61de6a2bd6ceddc9ecabad1671b91a59b3824bc4 254,048,068
2.0.2 5C1 18 Aug 2008 iPhone1,1_2.0.2_5C1_Restore.ipsw b84b57bea919bdc720287ec908c1378e7d7b5e1b 253,589,000
2.1 Sugar Bowl 5F136 12 Sep 2008 iPhone1,1_2.1_5F136_Restore.ipsw 353b7745767b85932e14e262e69463620939bdf7 242,171,241
2.2 Timberline 5G77 21 Nov 2008 iPhone1,1_2.2_5G77_Restore.ipsw cbfc6ff886ce89868a55547b9fb980dbf92e6418 257,576,980
2.2.1 SUTimberline 5H11 27 Jan 2009 iPhone1,1_2.2.1_5H11_Restore.ipsw 43b95ebe1e51f8d30eae916053396595c08440d3 257,593,705
3.0 Kirkwood 7A341 17 Jun 2009 iPhone1,1_3.0_7A341_Restore.ipsw 2afd3f8ede17390737f508473ed205506a0bd23f 240,394,111
3.0.1 7A400 31 Jul 2009 iPhone1,1_3.0.1_7A400_Restore.ipsw 34c391fbbc7b31b159372766de39ce5c9cc26ebb Hotfix for an SMS exploit. 240,439,502
3.1 Northstar 7C144 09 Sep 2009 iPhone1,1_3.1_7C144_Restore.ipsw b7b5f436f81c6f855410e8b44a3d432ccaacd6fc 252,536,460
3.1.2 7D11 08 Oct 2009 iPhone1,1_3.1.2_7D11_Restore.ipsw e4a1171542dbbd3093516d9c02047b9f7e143050 252,515,888
3.1.3 SUNorthstarTwo 7E18 02 Feb 2010 iPhone1,1_3.1.3_7E18_Restore.ipsw eab23a7f8d2a17cb71046c50fc5f67ec390a3c2b 238,319,275

We would then at the respective pages, give an overview of the build train, like what firmwares it was used on? Maybe even a link to the Wikipedia article of the ski resort it's named after? In addition, we could replace the the links of modified build trains, like SUTimberline, with a link to a section on Timberline (i.e. [[SUTimberline]] to [[Timberline#SUTimberline|SUTimberline]])? --5urd (talk) 18:00, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

I would agree if we did not link to the codename pages, just have it as text. --iAdam1n (talk) 19:09, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
I would move the build number next to the firmware version, and as Adam said, don't link the codenames. (Actually, maybe the codenames could get dropped altogether? Or even moved to a brand new page?) --Dialexio (talk) 07:10, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
Hm actually, I like the idea of trashing the codenames and moving build before baseband. Although this would be a big task of moving pages but we could just move say 20 each per day. --iAdam1n (talk) 07:25, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
I'm against dropping the build train from the page names, but I'd be fine with removing the build train from the link text. --5urd (talk) 19:14, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
That would be just more complicated. We should either drop them on the key pages too, or better still, keep them here in a new column like you listed but without the linking to pages with [[]] and move it so that the build is next to version then codename then baseband. --iAdam1n (talk) 19:32, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
Yeah, that's what I was saying... --5urd (talk) 19:33, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
Version Build Codename Baseband Release Date IPSW Download URL SHA1 Hash Comments File Size
1.0 1A420 Alpine 03.06.01_G ? iphoneproto.zip 6e798e906c6590a7521ef89b731569be6d05b3aa Prototype; macrumors 109,813,128
1A543a Heavenly 03.11.02_G 29 Jun 2007 iPhone1,1_1.0_1A543a_Restore.ipsw fb8bb3ee2e9a997affbb97868599f2995c78209c Initial US shipment. 95,604,348
1.0.1 1C25 SUHeavenlyJuly 03.12.08_G 31 Jul 2007 iPhone1,1_1.0.1_1C25_Restore.ipsw a00b85a7a55d62a94be5fbf5effbc42fd63f3097 95,627,958
1.0.2 1C28 03.14.08_G 21 Aug 2007 iPhone1,1_1.0.2_1C28_Restore.ipsw 7f5c0ff1f84a0202b75a55c3fcb362e415334d1e 95,627,324
1.1.1 3A109a Snowbird 04.01.13_G 27 Sep 2007 iPhone1,1_1.1.1_3A109a_Restore.ipsw d441dd1c71ce18f25d8fc4faa71c1e6eaa02d02c 159,668,150

For people who cannot visualise this. Are we all agreed? If so, I can start this due to it seems a few commented and like it. --iAdam1n (talk) 19:42, 8 September 2013 (UTC)