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I would be very happy if the Admins would implent something like [[http://www.art122-5.net/index.php/MediaWiki_multi-Language_management_with_the_extension_MultiLanguageManager]] to make it easier for people who speak less english! --[[User:Pattyland|Pattyland]] 20:53, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
 
I would be very happy if the Admins would implent something like [[http://www.art122-5.net/index.php/MediaWiki_multi-Language_management_with_the_extension_MultiLanguageManager]] to make it easier for people who speak less english! --[[User:Pattyland|Pattyland]] 20:53, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
 
:The problem with multilanguage is maintenance. We had or have a few pages in other languages, but nobody looks at them and far less maintain it. And how do you know if this new link to the russian site is spam or not? Actually all hackers and the jailbreak community is english speaking; this means you simply have to learn english. I can say that, because I'm not native english speaking either. For french language articles there are a lot of user guide sites etc. So overall, no, this won't happen unless we have a huge amount of hackers and users in another language. --[[User:Http|http]] 07:43, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
 
:The problem with multilanguage is maintenance. We had or have a few pages in other languages, but nobody looks at them and far less maintain it. And how do you know if this new link to the russian site is spam or not? Actually all hackers and the jailbreak community is english speaking; this means you simply have to learn english. I can say that, because I'm not native english speaking either. For french language articles there are a lot of user guide sites etc. So overall, no, this won't happen unless we have a huge amount of hackers and users in another language. --[[User:Http|http]] 07:43, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
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::Hm, do you have any links? The most pages are useless for normal Users, but Pages like [[Firmware]] or [[ITunes_Errors]] are so useful for people who are new to the Jailbeak-Szene or/and are not very good in English.--[[User:Pattyland|Pattyland]] 01:41, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
   
 
=== Hacking softwares which are fit to be in this wiki ===
 
=== Hacking softwares which are fit to be in this wiki ===

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Site Related Requests

Multilanguage Support?

I would be very happy if the Admins would implent something like [[1]] to make it easier for people who speak less english! --Pattyland 20:53, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

The problem with multilanguage is maintenance. We had or have a few pages in other languages, but nobody looks at them and far less maintain it. And how do you know if this new link to the russian site is spam or not? Actually all hackers and the jailbreak community is english speaking; this means you simply have to learn english. I can say that, because I'm not native english speaking either. For french language articles there are a lot of user guide sites etc. So overall, no, this won't happen unless we have a huge amount of hackers and users in another language. --http 07:43, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
Hm, do you have any links? The most pages are useless for normal Users, but Pages like Firmware or ITunes_Errors are so useful for people who are new to the Jailbeak-Szene or/and are not very good in English.--Pattyland 01:41, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Hacking softwares which are fit to be in this wiki

Some people are just copying other jailbreaks source code/idea, renaming it and they are putting up a iphone wiki page.What to do with them? Seas0npass is an example which copied sn0wbreeze/PwnageTool idea. --Whiteshinyapple 13:37, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

They are all just GUIs for xpwn. They are all valid "hacking softwares". --Toddyt1 14:27, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
Well, recognized tools like PwnageTool and sn0wbreeze definitely belong in here, although they are also "just" GUI tools. For other tools we can discuss. Regarding Seas0npass, I think it should remain, as this is the only tool for Apple TV 2G. --http 18:37, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

REQUEST

Can somebody please make a wiki page on how to boot the device into Recovery mode via itunesmobiledevice? Thank you! --Johnnyfranks67 18:11, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

Check the MobileDevice Library page to use MobileDevice Framework --Whiteshinyapple 13:05, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

VFDecrypt GUIs

I don't mean to sound like a dictator, but I'd like to request for no more VFDecrypt GUIs to be added here. There are more than enough of them, so I feel there really isn't a need to add any more. Whenever a new one arises, an argument spews over about its usefulness, as well as whether it belongs on this wiki. These arguments clog up the Recent changes page, making it tougher to keep an eye on things with the wiki. So, once again, I'd like to ask for no more VFDecrypt GUIs to have a place on this wiki. As of now, this is NOT a rule that will be imposed. It's just a polite request, nothing more. --Dialexio 19:35, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

I'd ask for GUI's of all kinds, such as VFDecrypt, iRecovery, and so on. Anyone can make a GUI. It takes a real hacker to write a program. --dra1nerdrake 22:52, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
We only have 3 publiclly available ones + 2 in development --Balloonhead66 00:14, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
I saw this coming when the new page for GiRecovery (Zeratul) first appeared some months ago. This Wiki is not intended to promote these tools. I didn't want to just delete the page though. One way we could go: Make sure all applications (including highly recognized ones and jailbreak apps like Limera1n) will get listed on an overview Tools page. It should be categorized by tool purpose and operating system. Maybe also by related iOS firmware. As soon as this works well, we just have to assure that not anybody adds new tools there. For example by having two users request a new entry (without the author). We can start this Tools page in any case. Initially we can include all these useless GUI apps already existing here also. -- http 07:38, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
We could delete the original pages and merge them with the page of the original app in a subsection. To be honest, though, I still don't see the point of having 4 softwares that do the same thing with the same features. --Ryccardo 09:22, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
All of them just decrypt. But mine will have 7zip integration to extract it for you and possibly look up the key automatically based on the Dmg name... --Balloonhead66 14:28, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
http://theiphonewiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=Ground_Rules#No_advertising_your_website.2Fforum.2Fwiki.2Fetc.Theiphonewiki is to help people understand the method and not just give people a GUI which can do those stuff.Take limera1n for example,they descibe about the software and their payload, method, explanation is over there which is what theiphonewiki wants and not just a GUI with the name over there and crediting their "own" team. --Whiteshinyapple.
To Balloonhead66:And dont undo the stuff I did. The sysops will decide and it is their decision not yours. --Whiteshinyapple.
A GUI is not a wiki website or forum apple dude --Balloonhead66 03:51, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
Yup a GUI is a program not a website. Those VFDecrypt GUI's just basically call the real VFDecrypt Program which does the real work.It is the same as using a batch file to call a program.If we saw a iphone wiki page which is showing a batch file; wouldnt we delete that? Its the same for these GUI's. We got to delete them!They are just advertising their program so that people will download it and geohot doesnt want people to advertise their stuff,he didnt say about a program but im sure that he meant any type of advertising including this.--Whiteshinyapple 13:01, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
If you think geohot wouldn't like it, go ask him! --Balloonhead66 15:21, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Useless Team Pages

I think we should remove all the team pages of users. Keep the Chronic and iPhone dev teams, but the rest that are just milking the wiki as a way to seek fame. There is no purpose for it and it just causes a large amount of useless edits and arguments. Instead of having a team page how about just add the software you make and use the credits part of it? Is there really a need for team pages? I am open to all discussions, just don't argue here. --JakeAnthraX 14:49, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

As long as the team in question is actually doing *something* I see no reason not to document them. MaybachMan 15:11, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
Well my counter to that is still there is no need for it. Maybe when you guys do something that is amazing or make something that isn't already out there. I don't want to fight, don't think I do. I just want the wiki to be peaceful and a place of knowledge. Not people gloating to be parts of groups and leech off of other people. Is the page really that important to you? --JakeAnthraX 15:14, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
My team made a jailbreak using usb control msg for iPodTouch2g MC. It was compatible with 4.0.2 and it was semitethered. Anyway I don't want it on theiphonewiki, because this wiki should NOT be TheTeamsWiki.--Qwertyoruiop 15:22, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
The page isn't for showing off, we made it so we can have a place to list all the projects the team makes, which I find useful. I don't want to fight over it, but I just think it has a use for organising knowledge on here, that's all. MaybachMan 15:19, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Well I'm done arguing. I still say both be removed until a group release is made. Either way it doesn't matter much to me, but I had to make things fair between the groups. Let other people voice their opinions for a day or so and don't remove deletion request until it is decided as a community, okay? --JakeAnthraX 15:21, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Until then, the deletion should be undone. I notice my team's page is already deleted for some reason. Or the content is, anyway. MaybachMan 15:23, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Wait, i have an idea. A wiki for projects by secondary teams. If anyone wants, I can host it. :) --Qwertyoruiop 15:24, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

I have a question. Why is it that it is like you must be on a team to be on here, cuz you don't! --Balloonhead66 15:25, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Well without the deletion tags people won't know to discuss it, but it is up to the sysops in the end. So Yeah. --JakeAnthraX 15:29, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

A Official hacking team is a team which is well-recognised among people.The team must have contributed to the Jailbreak Community.For example, the iPhone Dev Team found a number of exploits and made jailbreaks which were used by a large number of people.Take 0wnDev for example, they didnt do anything big and PwnPie was just a script making use of greenpois0n and irecovery which were done by the official hacking teams afaik and they didnt find any exploits;Same for Maybach Dev Team. --Whiteshinyapple 13:01, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Toolchain Status

It would be very worthwhile to post a current status of the Toolchain(s). It seems like the last work was a couple of years ago. There is no specific Linux (esp Fedora) section. The old llvm-svn revision in the tutorial won't compile (FC14) and the new llvm-svn compiles but is missing bits that the iphone-dev requires. I've cross-referenced to the work on the code.goole.com/p/iphone-dev wiki but no luck. It might very well be that the "Toolchain Concept" is an effort whose time has come and gone! tjames123 20:12, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

The iPhone Wiki app

Today I said to myself: "Why don't we create an iPhone app (for cydia) of the iPhone Wiki? Are you with me? Do you love this project? :-) Send me an email Umbi98 16:30, January 31, 2011 (UTC)

To do that, you need to access: http://theiphonewiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=(PAGENAME)&action=render and create a web displayer app --Balloonhead66 00:49, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Phoenix 8E200 (iPhone 4 CDMA)

What are your thoughts on how to differentiate between key pages for the GSM and CDMA iPhone 4s? --Dialexio 03:20, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

I like (iPhone 4) and (iPhone 4 CDMA) --Balloonhead66 03:25, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
I suppose it sounds fine. I'd prefer to change the "(iPhone 4)" suffix to "(iPhone 4 GSM)" though (consistency and whatnot). Does that sound fine? --Dialexio 03:32, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
Hey, if you got time, do it. But there are a lot of links to change then. also, it would clog the Recent Changes --Balloonhead66 03:40, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
Indeed... It's probably gonna be a pain, but I suppose it could be done on a slow day. (I really have nothing better to do. :P) --Dialexio 03:43, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
Thinking internationally, 95% of iPhone 4's will probably be the GSM ones a year from now. The CDMA one will be the "weird one". I think it can be implied that just iPhone 4 means GSM/UMTS and unless otherwise specified it is for the CDMA version. Iemit737 04:27, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
I suppose we can stick with "(iPhone 4)" and "(iPhone 4 CDMA)" for now. Perhaps the idea of adding "GSM" can be revisited if there's a substantial amount of CDMA iPhones, and/or if it goes international. --Dialexio 05:42, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

iPhone Related Requests

Main article: Unsolved problems

Keys/ivs for 4.0 beta 1/2/3 need to be updated. Many of them on are on the Internet, but not on here. Related pages: