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::::I do know you have to be pwned for it to work though... {{unsigned|ChronicDev|05:34, August 5, 2008 (UTC)}}
 
::::I do know you have to be pwned for it to work though... {{unsigned|ChronicDev|05:34, August 5, 2008 (UTC)}}
 
:::::I've never had any luck myself, but I suppose anything's possible :-)
 
:::::I've never had any luck myself, but I suppose anything's possible :-)
As for the actual word 'protected', the URLs in the XML are prefixed protected://. Perhaps those URLs are still of value?
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::::::As for the actual word 'protected', the URLs in the XML are prefixed protected://. Perhaps those URLs are still of value?
 
BTW, as far as I know, having a 2.0 beta installed will still allow "free" upgrades to 2.0. --[[User:Haldo|Haldo]] 13:39, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
 
BTW, as far as I know, having a 2.0 beta installed will still allow "free" upgrades to 2.0. --[[User:Haldo|Haldo]] 13:39, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
::::::After reading a post on Zibri's blog today, I tested (and confirmed) that the iPod touch 2.0.1 firmware could be downloaded from Apple's servers. Should this URL be provided on this page? -[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] 00:29, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
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:::::::After reading a post on Zibri's blog today, I tested (and confirmed) that the iPod touch 2.0.1 firmware could be downloaded from Apple's servers. Should this URL be provided on this page? -[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] 00:29, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
:::::::That is a tough question... I may have to defer to geohot for that. It is unfortunately very much a gray area. Maybe we link to the file linked by Zibri? --[[User:Haldo|Haldo]] 20:47, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
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::::::::That is a tough question... I may have to defer to geohot for that. It is unfortunately very much a gray area. Maybe we link to the file linked by Zibri? --[[User:Haldo|Haldo]] 20:47, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
:::::::well if its on apples servers, then we are not really 'hosting' warez, not could we be connected to hosting it at all, unlike if someone uploaded it to rapidshare, then there would be reason to believe we were involved. although its a community wiki, for something like this, it is geohot's call. {{unsigned|ChronicDev|00:35, August 6, 2008 (UTC)}}
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::::::::well if its on apples servers, then we are not really 'hosting' warez, not could we be connected to hosting it at all, unlike if someone uploaded it to rapidshare, then there would be reason to believe we were involved. although its a community wiki, for something like this, it is geohot's call. {{unsigned|ChronicDev|00:35, August 6, 2008 (UTC)}}
::::::::My thinking is this. If Apple sells it, no download link should be posted here. But perhaps a link to Zibri's page about it in the resources area. ~geohot
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:::::::::My thinking is this. If Apple sells it, no download link should be posted here. But perhaps a link to Zibri's page about it in the resources area. ~geohot
   
   

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Protected URLs

What do you mean by protected? iTunes has to dl it somehow --The preceding unsigned comment was added by Geohot (talk) 02:20, August 5, 2008 (UTC). Please consult this page for more info on how to sign pages, and how to fix this.

itunes probably checks to see if u bought it somehow... --The preceding unsigned comment was added by ChronicDev (talk) 02:35, August 5, 2008 (UTC). Please consult this page for more info on how to sign pages, and how to fix this.
o yea, forgot you had to pay for it :-) i wonder if the iPhone one would run easily? --The preceding unsigned comment was added by Geohot (talk) 03:46, August 5, 2008 (UTC). Please consult this page for more info on how to sign pages, and how to fix this.
funny you should mention that. my friend np1011357 got a 2.0 fw working, but I don't think people are brave enough to test any further
I do know you have to be pwned for it to work though... --The preceding unsigned comment was added by ChronicDev (talk) 05:34, August 5, 2008 (UTC). Please consult this page for more info on how to sign pages, and how to fix this.
I've never had any luck myself, but I suppose anything's possible :-)
As for the actual word 'protected', the URLs in the XML are prefixed protected://. Perhaps those URLs are still of value?

BTW, as far as I know, having a 2.0 beta installed will still allow "free" upgrades to 2.0. --Haldo 13:39, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

After reading a post on Zibri's blog today, I tested (and confirmed) that the iPod touch 2.0.1 firmware could be downloaded from Apple's servers. Should this URL be provided on this page? -Dialexio 00:29, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
That is a tough question... I may have to defer to geohot for that. It is unfortunately very much a gray area. Maybe we link to the file linked by Zibri? --Haldo 20:47, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
well if its on apples servers, then we are not really 'hosting' warez, not could we be connected to hosting it at all, unlike if someone uploaded it to rapidshare, then there would be reason to believe we were involved. although its a community wiki, for something like this, it is geohot's call. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by ChronicDev (talk) 00:35, August 6, 2008 (UTC). Please consult this page for more info on how to sign pages, and how to fix this.
My thinking is this. If Apple sells it, no download link should be posted here. But perhaps a link to Zibri's page about it in the resources area. ~geohot



WOW

ffs guys. i was hoping someone would figure this out. Anyone at all could just type 'strings iTunes' on the iTunes binary, and see that there is a link saying http://itunes.com/version, then another directly after is '?touchUpdate=yes". It's not even that hard if u disassembeld it in IDA --The preceding unsigned comment was added by ChronicDev (talk) 18:54, September 23, 2008 (UTC). Please consult this page for more info on how to sign pages, and how to fix this.


Tethered Jailbreak

at this point with ipt3g a tethered jailbreak may be the only option we have. the chances of another bootrom exploit being found are rather slim. And find an untethering exploit beyond that is stupid/pointless. I know a tethered exploit sucks, but there's a real chance that this may be the only thing that's left! Should we mark is as "yes jailbreakable" or not? I say take it and be happy with what you got!! --posixninja 13:22, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

I see what you mean, and I tend to agree for the most part, but a tethered jailbreak just isn't a complete jailbreak in my opinion. Plus if people keep looking I know a tether-less jailbreak will be found eventually, nothing is unhackable ;) --adriaaan 19:39, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
I wish that was true, but most people average 1 exploit for every so many kilobytes, and bootrom really isn't very large. Even then there's a limited number of injection vectors to exploits. So the chances of bootrom becoming exploitable is actually a real risk!! every exploit that is found greatly decreases the chances another exploit will be found. Within the next 2-3 years jailbreaking on iphone will probably be extinct. 4 years max

--posixninja 04:36, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

Well then in the next two years we'll "borrow one of nsa's super computers and extract the private signing key :D. Or get hold of a developer model and maybe there will be some interesting stuff on it. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by Revolution (talk) 12:11, October 15, 2009 (UTC). Please consult this page for more info on how to sign pages, and how to fix this.


Updated Bootroms

How can we note on this page that for some 3gs and touch 2G users (ones after September 9) they can only have a tethered jailbreak at the moment. Iemit737 18:07, 31 October 2009 (UTC)


Easily find rare firmwares using Google.

A handy way to search for firmwares, is to just search in Google using the corresponding listed SHA1 Hash (or even just the file size) as your query. Perhaps someone feels like editing the wiki so that the SHA1 strings become links to the right Google search results. Example: http://www.google.com/search?q=7367dd9ba58a3b9777307368a0128e696fdfc9a6 and http://www.google.com/search?q=249%2C780%2C497 Harlekeyn 22:59, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

I say no. Links for some of the iPod touch firmwares are missing because Apple sells or sold them. Not to mention, Apple's links to download them expire over time. (A third-party site hosting the firmware is copyright violation, which is a big no-no.) --Dialexio 06:51, 29 March 2010 (UTC)


4.0 Jailbreak

There is a userland exploit out there, and @comex (et al.) have verified that will likely work on iPhone 4 too. There is no such case as iPhone 4 having an exploit that an iPod touch 3G does not. Also this page displays if a jailbreak tool is available, not if a jailbreak has been demonstrated by geohot/chronic/dev-team/comex or Santa. -- Iemit737 21:55, 2 July 2010 (UTC

Dialexio, ok it sounds better now. But you also removed the two other jailbreak possibilites for 4.0:
  • with 3.1.2 shsh (this one is listed)
  • if still running 3.1.2, but no shsh
  • old bootrom

And what does OTB stand for? -- http 22:51, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

OTB stands for "Out of The Box." I'll fix it up now. --Dialexio 23:07, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
I saw that you changed it to virgin, but not everywhere. Can you make it consistent? -- http 05:18, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Done. :) --Dialexio 05:23, 12 August 2010 (UTC)