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if we get say 1 million computers then how long would it theoretically take to generate one key? 1 million isn't that impossible given that 3 million iPhone 3Gs have been sold of most geeks have more than one computer. Assuming that on average everyone contributes 2 computers then we only need 500000 people to reach 1 million. subtract the speed of networking and the fact that some people will turn their computers off every so often and we should be able to generate 5 or 6 keys a day? this is kinda pathetic for just a proof of concept but just proving that we can generate code and can harness this much power would be a massive psychological blow to apple. also i would assume that we would need some main server to control all the computers which probably doesn't exist :P |
if we get say 1 million computers then how long would it theoretically take to generate one key? 1 million isn't that impossible given that 3 million iPhone 3Gs have been sold of most geeks have more than one computer. Assuming that on average everyone contributes 2 computers then we only need 500000 people to reach 1 million. subtract the speed of networking and the fact that some people will turn their computers off every so often and we should be able to generate 5 or 6 keys a day? this is kinda pathetic for just a proof of concept but just proving that we can generate code and can harness this much power would be a massive psychological blow to apple. also i would assume that we would need some main server to control all the computers which probably doesn't exist :P |
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Revision as of 20:00, 19 August 2008
Is this method usable to permanently unlock the iPhone (like IPSF) aka upgrade resistant and not needing a software like signal.app (and being able to use SIM PIN Code)? This would allowed to have the "official" unlock (except activation)?
Time?
How long would it take to search the 15 digit one?
Geohots NCKBF program could do around 100,000 keys/second which would produce a hit in many years.
To get to a point where this is actually doable we would need many orders of magnitude of improvement. Even if you use a PSP3 or special hardware (within 1,000 US$ range) you will only get an improvement of 20-100 times.. which doesn't help much. - Deco
Using a system like BOINC ( known for seti @ home) would not help to distribute the load ?
If Apple sold 10 Million devices, and lets say maybe 10k to 100k people participated, we should be able to reduce that time from, lets say 200 years to a maximum of 2 weeks to 2 months.
Now we would just need someone to create a modified client, manage the calculated packages and provide the packages which would need to be calculated/crunched.
Just an idea.
Chris
And you'll end up with exactly one unlocked iPhone. Better off selling the machine hours. ~geohot
Is it not possible to brute force the key that apple uses and then use that to unlock all iPhones?
if we get say 1 million computers then how long would it theoretically take to generate one key? 1 million isn't that impossible given that 3 million iPhone 3Gs have been sold of most geeks have more than one computer. Assuming that on average everyone contributes 2 computers then we only need 500000 people to reach 1 million. subtract the speed of networking and the fact that some people will turn their computers off every so often and we should be able to generate 5 or 6 keys a day? this is kinda pathetic for just a proof of concept but just proving that we can generate code and can harness this much power would be a massive psychological blow to apple. also i would assume that we would need some main server to control all the computers which probably doesn't exist :P
blog.iphone-dev.org had 276,688 unique visitors on July 20th (PwnageTool release 2.0/2.0.1), so I would assume that number is the sort of participants we would get. I think 2 computers from each person is also optimistic, it would probably be less than 1 on average as most people won't run it 24/7.
