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It's a stretch, I know, but what about data recovery? If some (all?) devices have this firmware initially, then it is replaced, could some data still be recovered from the device? Or is it zeroed out before it leaves? I guess the real question is, does an OOTB device have data still on-disk other than actual inodes? --[[User:Haldo|Haldo]] 23:22, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
 
It's a stretch, I know, but what about data recovery? If some (all?) devices have this firmware initially, then it is replaced, could some data still be recovered from the device? Or is it zeroed out before it leaves? I guess the real question is, does an OOTB device have data still on-disk other than actual inodes? --[[User:Haldo|Haldo]] 23:22, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
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It would surprise me if the phones had anything on disk. I still believe it is a ramdisk. Although, lets assume I'm wrong. A dump is very easy to do, and if we do it at the iBoot level, I believe we can recover the out of band data too. ~geohot

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Where did these pictures come from? ~geohot

Chronic found these pictures from a guy at hackint0sh who sent in his 3G for repair. -wEsTbAeR--


geohot, the only flaw with your ramdisk hypothosis is that someone got their iphone back with that on it. plus, could all the needed frameworks for a GUI application fit on a ramdisk? ChronicDev

Chronic, maybe on a 32MB Zibri ZramdiskZ. :P Actually this is a really bad-ass GUI, so it should fit in these 32MB or something.

-wEsTbAeR--

nah

even this. you need new frameworks that dont come on a vanilla ramdisk

geohot

Actually, I wonder what this does to the baseband. Something has to set up each baseband from the factory, and that something contains the private keys!!!

well

don't get your hopes up. according to a friend, even builds that are seeded directly to people that work for carriers don't even get this, so this is for people way way way way WAY high up. If only that guy on hackintosh took the iPhone home, the devteam could have helped him pwn and extract the BurnIn application :( I doubt a phone like this will ever be seen in the wild again.

In other words, the likelyhood of us getting this is as likely as us getting the key that Apple uses to sign their ipsws, unless there is another factory slip up.

geohot, as a side note since I am already kind of talking to you :P, would you mind sharing the 114 iboot patches you used to get AES access? thanks to your post, I know how to do it, but I have been trying and I am just not skilled enough to find the correct patches :(

Data recovery?

It's a stretch, I know, but what about data recovery? If some (all?) devices have this firmware initially, then it is replaced, could some data still be recovered from the device? Or is it zeroed out before it leaves? I guess the real question is, does an OOTB device have data still on-disk other than actual inodes? --Haldo 23:22, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

It would surprise me if the phones had anything on disk. I still believe it is a ramdisk. Although, lets assume I'm wrong. A dump is very easy to do, and if we do it at the iBoot level, I believe we can recover the out of band data too. ~geohot