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== Wrong Version? ==
 
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== Filesize column idea. ==
For 3GS firmware 4.2GM the baseband doesn't match the value [[X-Gold 608#Known Firmware Versions|here]]. So one of these must be wrong. --[[User:Http|http]] 08:12, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
 
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I was wondering if we should add a filesize column which would be like on [[Firmware]]. Myself and [[User:5urd|5urd]] have a lot of the betas saved which can help to fill it in. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 16:50, 25 November 2013 (UTC)
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:Nothing against that. What about SHA-1 then too? --[[User:Http|http]] ([[User talk:Http|talk]]) 23:51, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
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::Personally think there is no need for SHA-1 as the ADC is the only legal place to download from and it would just help pirates. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 00:06, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
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::[[Talk:Beta Firmware/2010#SHA1 Hashes|This has been discussed before]], and they were removed because of a concern about piracy. I find that reasoning ridiculous now because if you want a firmware, you're not going to search by its SHA-1 hash, you're gonna either search for "iOS 7.1 beta download" or build and search the firmware file name itself (<code>iPad2,1_7.1_11D5099e_Restore.ipsw</code>). --[[User:5urd|5urd]] ([[User talk:5urd|talk]]) 01:37, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
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:Support --[[User:5urd|5urd]] ([[User talk:5urd|talk]]) 01:37, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
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::Completed. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 19:53, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
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== Basebands ==
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Is it really necessary to add beta basebands? Its not like developers who need to unlock would likely use baseband reliant unlocks. If we removed this then it would be much easier to edit. I do agree that [[Firmware]] should keep them but not this page. Let me know what you think. If its ok I am prepared to do it. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 21:21, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
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:We should not remove any potentially useful information. If we want to have to somewhere else, then ok, but I believe here is the best place. --[[User:Http|http]] ([[User talk:Http|talk]]) 22:00, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
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:: Well it makes it difficult to check unless you have a dev account. I do but it is too much to download each beta for each device just to check. How is it useful for beta? Developers would not reply on baseband unlocks. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 22:04, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
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::: Well information doesn't need to be there just for sake of completness.. if people want to add BB for a particular beta.. why not? if its missing for some or even most I also do not see any issue... just my 2 cents.--[[User:M2m|M2m]] ([[User talk:M2m|talk]]) 22:58, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
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:::: I fully agree with [[User:M2m|M2m]] here. Just put a question mark if you don't know it. No problem with that. It doesn't need to be complete. This wiki will never be "complete". If someone needs that info and digs it out, he can add this info here then. I just don't want to remove anything we already know. --[[User:Http|http]] ([[User talk:Http|talk]]) 22:11, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
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:::::I know what you mean but I just want to understand, how is it useful? One does not upgrade to a beta when needing to unlock. To me, it is pointless info. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 15:54, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
   
 
== iOS 6.1 beta 5 codename is Brighton, not BrightonVail. ==
 
== iOS 6.1 beta 5 codename is Brighton, not BrightonVail. ==
 
Not sure how this has been worked out in the past, but the codename for 6.1 beta 5 is Brighton, unlike the previous four betas, BrightonVail. I've added the AES keys for all the A4 devices on the pages with BrightonVail as someone already added links to it on the main page. [[User:INeal11|Neal]] ([[User talk:INeal11|talk]]) 06:20, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
 
Not sure how this has been worked out in the past, but the codename for 6.1 beta 5 is Brighton, unlike the previous four betas, BrightonVail. I've added the AES keys for all the A4 devices on the pages with BrightonVail as someone already added links to it on the main page. [[User:INeal11|Neal]] ([[User talk:INeal11|talk]]) 06:20, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
:Fixed. --[[User:Adaminsull|adaminsull]] ([[User talk:Adaminsull|talk]]) 08:04, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
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:Fixed. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 08:04, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
 
== Download URL's ==
 
Could we add the download URIs for each of these. As long as they are on Apple's server, it will deny you access if you try to do it without the $99. It will go Unauthorized with a free account or download it for paid accounts --[[User:5urd|5urd]] 16:34, 16 July 2011 (MDT)
 
:I have added the column but most of the links are dead. I will just add the live ones. --[[User:Adaminsull|adaminsull]] ([[User talk:Adaminsull|talk]]) 11:17, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
 
   
 
== What is iProd2,1? ==
 
== What is iProd2,1? ==
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:"iProd" is a moniker Apple used for internal prototypes. "iProd1,1" was the iPad, and "iProd2,1" was the Apple TV 2G. --[[User:Dialexio|<span style="color:#C20; font-weight:normal;">Dialexio</span>]] 19:24, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
 
:"iProd" is a moniker Apple used for internal prototypes. "iProd1,1" was the iPad, and "iProd2,1" was the Apple TV 2G. --[[User:Dialexio|<span style="color:#C20; font-weight:normal;">Dialexio</span>]] 19:24, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
   
== SHA1 Hashes ==
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== Download URL's ==
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Could we add the download URLs for each of these. As long as they are on Apple's server, it will deny you access if you try to do it without the $99. It will go Unauthorized with a free account or download it for paid accounts --[[User:5urd|5urd]] 16:34, 16 July 2011 (MDT)
I'm not completely happy on the idea of having SHA1 hashes for beta firmwares. I do see it as useful if you need to verify the firmware, but I don't think it's necessary. The firmwares should have been downloaded from Apple by developers/hackers, not the Average Joe jailbreaker. I feel that the inclusion of SHA1 hashes is just to assist people in pirating the beta firmwares; that's the only reason I can think of that would make people want to verify their IPSW. Thoughts? --[[User:Dialexio|<span style="color:#C20; font-weight:normal;">Dialexio</span>]] 17:00, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
 
:I think they should be removed as they help idiots pirate the software... --[[User:5urd|5urd]] 18:43, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
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:I have added the column but most of the links are dead. I will just add the live ones. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 11:17, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

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Filesize column idea.

I was wondering if we should add a filesize column which would be like on Firmware. Myself and 5urd have a lot of the betas saved which can help to fill it in. --iAdam1n (talk) 16:50, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Nothing against that. What about SHA-1 then too? --http (talk) 23:51, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
Personally think there is no need for SHA-1 as the ADC is the only legal place to download from and it would just help pirates. --iAdam1n (talk) 00:06, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
This has been discussed before, and they were removed because of a concern about piracy. I find that reasoning ridiculous now because if you want a firmware, you're not going to search by its SHA-1 hash, you're gonna either search for "iOS 7.1 beta download" or build and search the firmware file name itself (iPad2,1_7.1_11D5099e_Restore.ipsw). --5urd (talk) 01:37, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
Support --5urd (talk) 01:37, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
Completed. --iAdam1n (talk) 19:53, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Basebands

Is it really necessary to add beta basebands? Its not like developers who need to unlock would likely use baseband reliant unlocks. If we removed this then it would be much easier to edit. I do agree that Firmware should keep them but not this page. Let me know what you think. If its ok I am prepared to do it. --iAdam1n (talk) 21:21, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

We should not remove any potentially useful information. If we want to have to somewhere else, then ok, but I believe here is the best place. --http (talk) 22:00, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
Well it makes it difficult to check unless you have a dev account. I do but it is too much to download each beta for each device just to check. How is it useful for beta? Developers would not reply on baseband unlocks. --iAdam1n (talk) 22:04, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
Well information doesn't need to be there just for sake of completness.. if people want to add BB for a particular beta.. why not? if its missing for some or even most I also do not see any issue... just my 2 cents.--M2m (talk) 22:58, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
I fully agree with M2m here. Just put a question mark if you don't know it. No problem with that. It doesn't need to be complete. This wiki will never be "complete". If someone needs that info and digs it out, he can add this info here then. I just don't want to remove anything we already know. --http (talk) 22:11, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
I know what you mean but I just want to understand, how is it useful? One does not upgrade to a beta when needing to unlock. To me, it is pointless info. --iAdam1n (talk) 15:54, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

iOS 6.1 beta 5 codename is Brighton, not BrightonVail.

Not sure how this has been worked out in the past, but the codename for 6.1 beta 5 is Brighton, unlike the previous four betas, BrightonVail. I've added the AES keys for all the A4 devices on the pages with BrightonVail as someone already added links to it on the main page. Neal (talk) 06:20, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

Fixed. --iAdam1n (talk) 08:04, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

What is iProd2,1?

I was digging around the build manifest of the Apple TV 5.0/4.4b1 and found this:

        <key>SupportedProductTypes</key>
	<array>
		<string>iProd2,1</string>
		<string>AppleTV2,1</string>
	</array>
</dict>
</plist>

What is iProd2,1? --5urd 17:55, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

"iProd" is a moniker Apple used for internal prototypes. "iProd1,1" was the iPad, and "iProd2,1" was the Apple TV 2G. --Dialexio 19:24, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Download URL's

Could we add the download URLs for each of these. As long as they are on Apple's server, it will deny you access if you try to do it without the $99. It will go Unauthorized with a free account or download it for paid accounts --5urd 16:34, 16 July 2011 (MDT)

I have added the column but most of the links are dead. I will just add the live ones. --iAdam1n (talk) 11:17, 13 June 2013 (UTC)