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== Wrong Version? ==
 
For 3GS firmware 4.2GM the baseband doesn't match the value [[X-Gold 608#Known Firmware Versions|here]]. So one of these must be wrong. --[[User:Http|http]] 08:12, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
 
   
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== Why is there the Inferno firmware here? ==
== liamchat baseband edit ==
 
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As the title suggests, why? We did not list any other internal firmwares, and it's not really a beta firmware that's provided by Apple. --[[User:Awesomebing1|Awesomebing1]] ([[User talk:Awesomebing1|talk]]) 03:08, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
Hi [[User:liamchat|liamchat]]! You just added 4.2.1GM beta rows. Thanks. Where do you have the baseband infos from? Did you install it on all devices or where does this info come from? Are you 100% sure the baseband versions are correct you added? --[[User:Http|http]] 22:05, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
 
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:There should be a separate page dedicated to internal firmware builds. [[Prototype Firmware]] or [[Internal Firmware]]? --[[User:5urd|5urd]] ([[User talk:5urd|talk]]) 17:53, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
: no sorry i copied the 4.2gm table lines to help me add it faster however once i have finished downloading it i will check --[[User:Liamchat|liamchat]] 22:12, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
 
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::I say [[Prototype Firmware]] because if we did [[Internal Firmware]], that might mean people who have illegal internal firmwares would add download links, etc. --[[User:Awesomebing1|Awesomebing1]] ([[User talk:Awesomebing1|talk]]) 18:34, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
::Ok, but please don't add unproven / possibly wrong information. There's no race to be the first to add the 4.2.1GM release. And please replace the ones you don't test with a question mark or something similar. --[[User:Http|http]] 22:15, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
 
:::Well, GreySyntax did [https://twitter.com/GreySyntax/status/5365655490527232 confirm on Twitter] that the 4.2.1 GM release for the iPhone 4 has [[03.10.01]]. I'm almost willing to bet that the iPhone 3G/3GS baseband is still [[05.15.04]], but it still hasn't been confirmed yet. --[[User:Dialexio|<span style="color:#C20; font-weight:normal;">Dialexio</span>]] 22:21, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
 
::::I also saw that. But it was added for all devices and I think you should only add what you really know. That's why I initially added lots of empty fields instead of assuming something. I agree that it's probably correct. --[[User:Http|http]] 22:38, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
 
   
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== I have a question about the build number for iPhone 5c(iPhone 5,3) ==
== SHA1 Hashes ==
 
I'm not completely happy on the idea of having SHA1 hashes for beta firmwares. I do see it as useful if you need to verify the firmware, but I don't think it's necessary. The firmwares should have been downloaded from Apple by developers/hackers, not the Average Joe jailbreaker. I feel that the inclusion of SHA1 hashes is just to assist people in pirating the beta firmwares; that's the only reason I can think of that would make people want to verify their IPSW. Thoughts? --[[User:Dialexio|<span style="color:#C20; font-weight:normal;">Dialexio</span>]] 17:00, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
 
:I think they should be removed as they help idiots pirate the software... --[[User:5urd|5urd]] 18:43, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
 
   
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The build number in the article of iOS 8.3 beta 4 for iPhone 5,3 was "12F5061" but what my iPhone 5c recieved was "12F61". Should we change it in the article?
== What is iProd2,1? ==
 
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:I did also notice this in the OTA BuildManifest.plist. It's listed in Settings>General>About too as "12F61" even though http://mesu.apple.com/assets/com_apple_MobileAsset_SoftwareUpdate/com_apple_MobileAsset_SoftwareUpdate.xml.com shows 12F5061. Developer center also shows this -http://twitter.com/EveryApplesPro/status/580677622264438784/photo/1. I've updated all the pages with "12F61". --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 10:40, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
I was digging around the build manifest of the Apple TV 5.0/4.4b1 and found this:
 
<key>SupportedProductTypes</key>
 
<array>
 
<string>iProd2,1</string>
 
<string>AppleTV2,1</string>
 
</array>
 
</dict>
 
</plist>
 
What is iProd2,1? --[[User:5urd|5urd]] 17:55, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
 
:"iProd" is a moniker Apple used for internal prototypes. "iProd1,1" was the iPad, and "iProd2,1" was the Apple TV 2G. --[[User:Dialexio|<span style="color:#C20; font-weight:normal;">Dialexio</span>]] 19:24, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
 
::Ok, Thanks! --[[User:5urd|5urd]] 19:39, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
 
 
== iPhone 3GS and iPad ==
 
How come the [[IPSW File Format|IPSW]]s for the [[iPad]] and iPhone 3GS, they don't have a bb file like the others do? --[[User:5urd|5urd]] 23:53, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
 
:The baseband files for the [[X-Gold 608]] are tucked inside of the ramdisks. The [[X-Gold 618]] and [[MDM6600]] baseband files are outside of the ramdisks since they require SHSH-like signatures. --[[User:Dialexio|<span style="color:#C20; font-weight:normal;">Dialexio</span>]] 17:13, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
 
::So we need a Resotre Ramdisk IV and Key to get at them (or install) --[[User:5urd|5urd]] 17:17, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
 
 
== Download URL's ==
 
Could we add the download URIs for each of these. As long as they are on Apple's server, it will deny you access if you try to do it without the $99. It will go Unauthorized with a free account or download it for paid accounts --[[User:5urd|5urd]] 16:34, 16 July 2011 (MDT)
 
:I have added the column but most of the links are dead. I will just add the live ones. --[[User:Adaminsull|adaminsull]] ([[User talk:Adaminsull|talk]]) 11:17, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
 
 
== [http://mesu.apple.com/assets/com_apple_MobileAsset_SoftwareUpdate/com_apple_MobileAsset_SoftwareUpdate.xml OTA Updates] ==
 
Here is something interesting I found in the XML File:
 
<plist version="1.0">
 
<dict>
 
<key>Assets</key>
 
<array>
 
<dict>
 
<key>Build</key>
 
<string>9A5332</string>
 
So, what is 9A5332? --[[User:5urd|5urd]] 20:51, 13 October 2011 (MDT)
 
:I downloaded the asset file and in the BuildManifest.plist, at the [http://pastie.org/2692948 bottom], it says 9A332 for the iPhone 3GS... I am assuming 9A5332 and 9A332 are the same. So is this an internal beta? --[[User:5urd|5urd]] 23:02, 13 October 2011 (MDT)
 
::I was just looking into it, too :) I can't download it right now, my connection is slow. Can you find the SystemVersion.plist and see what is the ReleaseType value? --pjakuszew 06:07, 14 October 2011 (MDT)
 
:::You just enter {plist}{dict}(assets){dict}(__BaseURL) followed by {plist}{dict}(assets){dict}(__RelativePath) into your browser...
 
:::The /System/Library/CoreServices/SystemVersion.plist is located under <code>\AssetData\payload\patches\System\Library\CoreServices\</code> and is a DIFF like all the other files under <code>\AssetData\payload\patches\</code>. I am guessing if you hav 5.0b'''7''' for the iPhone 3GS, you could do it... I'll do it right now --[[User:5urd|5urd]] 07:07, 14 October 2011 (MDT)
 
:::As this is a patch (diff) file, I can't work with it though. I can email you it or upload it to mega or something... --[[User:5urd|5urd]] 07:54, 14 October 2011 (MDT)
 
::::I know how to download it, I have played with OTA updates in beta period, the problem is that I'm on a very slow CDMA connection right now. Maybe I'll be able to download it tommorow. But since you say that SystemVersion.plist is just patched in this update, instead of being replaced like in earlier updates, this build seems to be a public variant... Even the index file does not specify ReleaseType (in beta period they used to do that), so we can assume this is just an unreleased beta which was a candidate for a GM release --pjakuszew 08:15, 14 October 2011 (MDT)
 
:::::Yah, it is called <code>SystemVersion.plist.patch</code>. I tried using GNU patch, but I couldn't figure it out. A GM? That makes sense... --[[User:5urd|5urd]] 15:34, 14 October 2011 (MDT)
 
 
== iOS 6.1 beta 5 codename is Brighton, not BrightonVail. ==
 
Not sure how this has been worked out in the past, but the codename for 6.1 beta 5 is Brighton, unlike the previous four betas, BrightonVail. I've added the AES keys for all the A4 devices on the pages with BrightonVail as someone already added links to it on the main page. [[User:INeal11|Neal]] ([[User talk:INeal11|talk]]) 06:20, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
 
: Fixed. --[[User:Adaminsull|adaminsull]] ([[User talk:Adaminsull|talk]]) 08:04, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
 
 
== Basebands ==
 
 
Is it really necessary to add beta basebands? Its not like developers who need to unlock would likely use baseband reliant unlocks. If we removed this then it would be much easier to edit. I do agree that [[Firmware]] should keep them but not this page. Let me know what you think. If its ok I am prepared to do it. --[[User:Adaminsull|adaminsull]] ([[User talk:Adaminsull|talk]]) 21:21, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
 
:We should not remove any potentially useful information. If we want to have to somewhere else, then ok, but I believe here is the best place. --[[User:Http|http]] ([[User talk:Http|talk]]) 22:00, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
 
:: Well it makes it difficult to check unless you have a dev account. I do but it is too much to download each beta for each device just to check. How is it useful for beta? Developers would not reply on baseband unlocks. --[[User:Adaminsull|adaminsull]] ([[User talk:Adaminsull|talk]]) 22:04, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
 
::: Well information doesn't need to be there just for sake of completness.. if people want to add BB for a particular beta.. why not? if its missing for some or even most I also do not see any issue... just my 2 cents.--[[User:M2m|M2m]] ([[User talk:M2m|talk]]) 22:58, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
 
:::: I fully agree with [[User:M2m|M2m]] here. Just put a question mark if you don't know it. No problem with that. It doesn't need to be complete. This wiki will never be "complete". If someone needs that info and digs it out, he can add this info here then. I just don't want to remove anything we already know. --[[User:Http|http]] ([[User talk:Http|talk]]) 22:11, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
 
:::::I know what you mean but I just want to understand, how is it useful? One does not upgrade to a beta when needing to unlock. To me, it is pointless info. --[[User:Adaminsull|adaminsull]] ([[User talk:Adaminsull|talk]]) 15:54, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
 
 
== Release Dates. ==
 
 
Would it be a good idea to add the release dates for the new betas? I would be fully willing to do this myself if so. --[[User:Adaminsull|adaminsull]] ([[User talk:Adaminsull|talk]]) 16:00, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
 

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Why is there the Inferno firmware here?

As the title suggests, why? We did not list any other internal firmwares, and it's not really a beta firmware that's provided by Apple. --Awesomebing1 (talk) 03:08, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

There should be a separate page dedicated to internal firmware builds. Prototype Firmware or Internal Firmware? --5urd (talk) 17:53, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
I say Prototype Firmware because if we did Internal Firmware, that might mean people who have illegal internal firmwares would add download links, etc. --Awesomebing1 (talk) 18:34, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

I have a question about the build number for iPhone 5c(iPhone 5,3)

The build number in the article of iOS 8.3 beta 4 for iPhone 5,3 was "12F5061" but what my iPhone 5c recieved was "12F61". Should we change it in the article?

I did also notice this in the OTA BuildManifest.plist. It's listed in Settings>General>About too as "12F61" even though http://mesu.apple.com/assets/com_apple_MobileAsset_SoftwareUpdate/com_apple_MobileAsset_SoftwareUpdate.xml.com shows 12F5061. Developer center also shows this -http://twitter.com/EveryApplesPro/status/580677622264438784/photo/1. I've updated all the pages with "12F61". --iAdam1n (talk) 10:40, 25 March 2015 (UTC)