User talk:Liamchat/2010 - Revision history

IAdam1n at 14:07, 28 March 2017

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IAdam1n at 10:30, 21 August 2013

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IAdam1n: /* Template for keys */

2013-07-22T00:04:31Z

‎Template for keys

IAdam1n: Fixed lowercase spelling.

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Fixed lowercase spelling.

5urd: 5urd moved page User talk:Liamchat/Archive 1 to User talk:Liamchat/2010 without leaving a redirect

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5urd moved page User talk:Liamchat/Archive 1 to User talk:Liamchat/2010 without leaving a redirect

5urd at 00:20, 19 February 2013

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5urd: /* Firmware */

2011-01-22T20:50:49Z

‎Firmware

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5urd: /* We love you liamchat */

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‎We love you liamchat

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 | {{yes|Pro}}
 | He added iv/keys that where old and ignored
-| [[Timberline 5G77a (iPod touch 2G)]]
+| [[Timberline 5G77a (iPod2,1)|Timberline 5G77a (iPod touch 2G)]]
 | [[User:liamchat|liamchat]]
 |-
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 | {{no|Con}}
 | He does not follow the proper format for posting keys.
-| [http://theiphonewiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=JasperVail_8C148_(iPhone_4)&oldid=13215 JasperVail 8C148 (iPhone 4)] a few revisions ago
+| [http://theiphonewiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=JasperVail_8C148_(iPhone3,1)&oldid=13215 JasperVail 8C148 (iPhone 4)] a few revisions ago
 | [[User:Dra1nerdrake|Dra1nerdrake]]
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 :Where? I personally have tested almost all VFDecrypt keys he has posted and they are correct --[[User:5urd|5urd]] 00:23, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
 Kernelcache keys for wrong AP posted (expected: n90; actual:k48)
-[{{FULLURL:JasperVail 8C148 (iPhone 4)|oldid=13282#kernelcache}}] [{{FULLURL:JasperVail 8C148 (iPhone_4)|diff=13354&oldid=13282}}] Note that keys were correct, but not for the target AP. A4 firmware is tricky ;)
+[{{FULLURL:JasperVail 8C148 (iPhone3,1)|oldid=13282#kernelcache}}] [{{FULLURL:JasperVail 8C148 (iPhone3,1)|diff=13354&oldid=13282}}] Note that keys were correct, but not for the target AP. A4 firmware is tricky ;)
 === Conclusions ===
 I can see a lot of haters and some problems. I don't think we should ban him for what he has done. What seems to be proven for me is that he wants to make himself important. He is clearly no hacker and hasn't contributed any real value in this wiki. But this applies to many others also (maybe also to me?)
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 :::also can we remove the mentioning of greysyntax he never said i stole his keys --[[User:Liamchat|liamchat]] 15:39, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
 === Template for keys ===
-Hi liamchat! It's nice if you post new keys pages. But could you use the standard format (template), I mean like [[Jasper 8C134 (iPhone_3GS)]], instead of [http://theiphonewiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=Jasper_8C148_%28iPod_touch_2G%29&oldid=13271 this new page from you]? Preferrably without the KBAGs (until all agreed that we want them). This way you save us some reformatting work and you'll have less haters. Thanks! --[[User:Http|http]] 23:35, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
+Hi liamchat! It's nice if you post new keys pages. But could you use the standard format (template), I mean like [[Jasper 8C134 (iPhone2,1)|Jasper 8C134 (iPhone_3GS)]], instead of [http://theiphonewiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=Jasper_8C148_%28iPod_touch_2G%29&oldid=13271 this new page from you]? Preferrably without the KBAGs (until all agreed that we want them). This way you save us some reformatting work and you'll have less haters. Thanks! --[[User:Http|http]] 23:35, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
 :ok when I grab the keys it reads the restore.plist and places them in the order that apple use however I do think i can change that also I will remove the kbag field --[[User:Liamchat|liamchat]] 00:29, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
 ::Not only the order, also the titles, etc. --[[User:Http|http]]
-::On your new page [[Jasper 8C148 (iPad)]] you did it again. Please update it according to the [[Template:Keys|template]]. Thanks. --[[User:Http|http]] 19:15, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
+::On your new page [[Jasper 8C148 (iPad1,1)|Jasper 8C148 (iPad1,1)]] you did it again. Please update it according to the [[Template:Keys|template]]. Thanks. --[[User:Http|http]] 19:15, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
 :::ok i am trying to incorporate the template into the program, i am editing them now  --[[User:Liamchat|liamchat]] 19:33, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
 ::::You have been warned before that you have to use the template. And even after my message above you posted another one not following the rules. Please understand that you have to play nice with others. There is no race to be the first here. As a consequence you have been blocked for a day to think about this. Next time it's more than a day. I hope you understand that. -- [[User:Http|http]] 20:22, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
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 === How do you get your keys? ===
 You may or may not realize it, but you can only get iPhone 4 keys with an iPhone 4. Likewise, you can only get iPad keys with an iPad. So on and so on. This is because each device has a unique AES engine. If you have been posting iPhone 4 keys by running your shell script with an iPod touch 2G or anything else than an iPhone 4, you've been posting incorrect keys and I'd appreciate it if you tested them with xpwn to see if they give you binaries or gobbledygook. In the case of the latter, please remove the keys that are incorrect but leave the pages intact, as I've just reformatted some of them. --[[User:Dra1nerdrake|dra1nerdrake]] 20:30, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
-:Actually, if devices share the same applications processor, they can also decrypt each others' [[KBAG]]s. ;) (i.e.- [[N45ap|iPod touch 1G]] can fetch [[N82ap|iPhone 3G]] keys because they both use the [[S5L8900]], and the [[N90ap|iPhone 4]] can fetch [[N81ap|iPod touch 4G]] keys because they both use the [[S5L8930]].)
+:Actually, if devices share the same applications processor, they can also decrypt each others' [[KBAG]]s. ;) (i.e.- [[N45AP|iPod touch 1G]] can fetch [[N82AP|iPhone 3G]] keys because they both use the [[S5L8900]], and the [[N90AP|iPhone 4]] can fetch [[N81AP|iPod touch 4G]] keys because they both use the [[S5L8930]].)
-:But yeah... If the applications processor is different, you can't get the KBAGs like tht. (i.e.- The [[N72ap|iPod touch 2G]] uses the [[S5L8720]] while the [[N88ap|iPhone 3GS]] uses the [[S5L8920]], so you cannot get 3GS keys with an iPod touch 2G.) --[[User:Dialexio|<span style="color:#C20; font-weight:normal;">Dialexio</span>]] 20:46, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
+:But yeah... If the applications processor is different, you can't get the KBAGs like tht. (i.e.- The [[N72AP|iPod touch 2G]] uses the [[S5L8720]] while the [[N88AP|iPhone 3GS]] uses the [[S5L8920]], so you cannot get 3GS keys with an iPod touch 2G.) --[[User:Dialexio|<span style="color:#C20; font-weight:normal;">Dialexio</span>]] 20:46, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
-::all of my key's are tested before i post them i just had some problem's with [[PwnPie]] not looking at the device the ipsw was made for and the double backspace was more work to fix now i need to know how to arrange "$line1" and move the "$line3" and "$line2" with it and i did get my hand's on a iphone 3gs and 3g for a day so i got [[ApexVail 8A274b (iPhone 3G)]] and [[ApexVail 8A274b (iPhone 3GS)]] (key's are missing) --[[User:Liamchat|liamchat]] 20:21, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
+::all of my key's are tested before i post them i just had some problem's with [[PwnPie]] not looking at the device the ipsw was made for and the double backspace was more work to fix now i need to know how to arrange "$line1" and move the "$line3" and "$line2" with it and i did get my hand's on a iphone 3gs and 3g for a day so i got [[ApexVail 8A274b (iPhone1,2)|ApexVail 8A274b (iPhone 3G)]] and [[ApexVail 8A274b (iPhone1,2)|ApexVail 8A274b (iPhone 3G)]] (key's are missing) --[[User:Liamchat|liamchat]] 20:21, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
 == KBAGs ==

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 :::ok i am trying to incorporate the template into the program, i am editing them now  --[[User:Liamchat|liamchat]] 19:33, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
 ::::You have been warned before that you have to use the template. And even after my message above you posted another one not following the rules. Please understand that you have to play nice with others. There is no race to be the first here. As a consequence you have been blocked for a day to think about this. Next time it's more than a day. I hope you understand that. -- [[User:Http|http]] 20:22, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
-:::::I know this is a very old post, but it was Jasper not JasperVail and I fixed the template. --[[User:Adaminsull|adaminsull]] ([[User talk:Adaminsull|talk]]) 00:04, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
+:::::I know this is a very old post, but it was Jasper not JasperVail and I fixed the template. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 00:04, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
 === How do you get your keys? ===

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 :::also can we remove the mentioning of greysyntax he never said i stole his keys --[[User:Liamchat|liamchat]] 15:39, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
 === Template for keys ===
-Hi liamchat! It's nice if you post new keys pages. But could you use the standard format (template), I mean like [[JasperVail 8C134 (iPhone_3GS)]], instead of [http://theiphonewiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=JasperVail_8C148_%28iPod_touch_2G%29&oldid=13271 this new page from you]? Preferrably without the KBAGs (until all agreed that we want them). This way you save us some reformatting work and you'll have less haters. Thanks! --[[User:Http|http]] 23:35, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
+Hi liamchat! It's nice if you post new keys pages. But could you use the standard format (template), I mean like [[Jasper 8C134 (iPhone_3GS)]], instead of [http://theiphonewiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=Jasper_8C148_%28iPod_touch_2G%29&oldid=13271 this new page from you]? Preferrably without the KBAGs (until all agreed that we want them). This way you save us some reformatting work and you'll have less haters. Thanks! --[[User:Http|http]] 23:35, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
 :ok when I grab the keys it reads the restore.plist and places them in the order that apple use however I do think i can change that also I will remove the kbag field --[[User:Liamchat|liamchat]] 00:29, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
 ::Not only the order, also the titles, etc. --[[User:Http|http]]
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 :::ok i am trying to incorporate the template into the program, i am editing them now  --[[User:Liamchat|liamchat]] 19:33, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
 ::::You have been warned before that you have to use the template. And even after my message above you posted another one not following the rules. Please understand that you have to play nice with others. There is no race to be the first here. As a consequence you have been blocked for a day to think about this. Next time it's more than a day. I hope you understand that. -- [[User:Http|http]] 20:22, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
 === How do you get your keys? ===
 You may or may not realize it, but you can only get iPhone 4 keys with an iPhone 4. Likewise, you can only get iPad keys with an iPad. So on and so on. This is because each device has a unique AES engine. If you have been posting iPhone 4 keys by running your shell script with an iPod touch 2G or anything else than an iPhone 4, you've been posting incorrect keys and I'd appreciate it if you tested them with xpwn to see if they give you binaries or gobbledygook. In the case of the latter, please remove the keys that are incorrect but leave the pages intact, as I've just reformatted some of them. --[[User:Dra1nerdrake|dra1nerdrake]] 20:30, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

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-{{lowecase}}
+{{lowercase}}
 {{Archive Page}}
 ==We love you liamchat==

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-{{Archive Page|User talk:liamchat}}
+{{Archive Page}}
 ==We love you liamchat==
 Now go away! --[[User:Ifish|Ifish]] 15:45, 30 October 2010 (UTC)ifish
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 ===Table===
 Please fill out this table with info... use <code><nowiki>{{yes|Pro}}</nowiki></code> for a pro, <code><nowiki>{{no|Con}}</nowiki></code> for a con, or <code><nowiki>{{partial|Somewhat}}</nowiki></code> for a ehh... in the first column
-{| class="sortable wikitable" border="1"
+{| class="wikitable sortable"
 |-
 ! Pro/Con
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 | [[User:liamchat|liamchat]]
 |-
-| {{No|Con}}
+| {{no|Con}}
 | He has stolen keys from users like GreySyntax and often posts useless/incorrect keys. He also deletes proper info and cites the Wiki for everything. Finally, his KBAGS aren't needed.
 | {{cn}}
 | [[User:vexenon|vexenon]]
 |-
-| {{No|Con}}
+| {{no|Con}}
 | For several times he has posted wrong keys in the wiki. Deletes correct info replacing it with he's own. (Apart from being a major spammer and general annoyance at IRC)
 | {{Cn}}
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 My point is, it's someone's opinion and you can't change it.
-Therefore, </edit-war> --[[User:Dra1nerdrake|dra1nerdrake]] 00:45, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
+Therefore, &lt;/edit-war> --[[User:Dra1nerdrake|dra1nerdrake]] 00:45, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
 :I like your thinking. I agree 100%
 :P.S: I object your "Cookies taste good" since I'm always right ;P
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 *recoverymode-640x960.s5l8930x.img3:
 --[[User:Liamchat|liamchat]] 22:09, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

← Older revision	Revision as of 00:21, 19 February 2013
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 {{Archive Page|User talk:liamchat}}
 __NOTOC__
 ==We love you liamchat==
 Now go away! --[[User:Ifish|Ifish]] 15:45, 30 October 2010 (UTC)ifish
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 === Basic discussion ===
 There is a petition going on to ban liamchat from this wiki. I'm not sure how serious it is and nobody can vote for him there. So please comment here, pro and contra, preferrably with arguments. I think five users more against him with serious arguments would be enough. --[[User:Http|http]] 22:05, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
-:??? Why would you ban him? I havn't seen anything wrong he has done... Please give more info... --[[User:Balloonhead66|Balloonhead66]] 22:15, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
+:??? Why would you ban him? I havn't seen anything wrong he has done... Please give more info... --[[User:5urd|5urd]] 22:15, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
 ::I don't understand it ether but I do help by filling in the missing keys and check the Current ones --[[User:Liamchat|liamchat]] 22:45, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
 :::Just to make it clear: Nobody will be banned just because others don't like someone. For a ban we need a clear majority of people with good arguments. --[[User:Http|http]] 22:52, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
 :::Please give evidence of deleting / filling in wrong data. Single mistakes can happen. And his problems on IRC are unrelated to this wiki. --[[User:Http|http]] 21:55, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
 :I'm someone who wants him banned. My name is Fike here on the net. He constantly spams IRC networks with all types of shit... I had quite a job getting rid of him from Sauriks server, but I did it. He alsdo takes other peoples nicks, for instance "cj"'s nick was taken on sauriks server. cj couldn't ghost it, because services weren't online. And I've heard from numerous people he adds inaccurate information here on the wiki. My 2 cents. --[[User:Fike|Fike]] 20:59, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
-::Lets not forget that you spammed my [http://cole.freehostingcloud.com/wiki/Cole_Stuff wiki]... --[[User:Balloonhead66|Balloonhead66]] 23:28, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
+::Lets not forget that you spammed my wiki... --[[User:5urd|5urd]] 23:28, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
 ===Table===
 Please fill out this table with info... use <code><nowiki>{{yes|Pro}}</nowiki></code> for a pro, <code><nowiki>{{no|Con}}</nowiki></code> for a con, or <code><nowiki>{{partial|Somewhat}}</nowiki></code> for a ehh... in the first column
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 | He helps out this wiki alot
 | [[Special:Contributions/Liamchat]]
-| [[User:Balloonhead66|Balloonhead66]]
+| [[User:5urd|5urd]]
 |-
 | {{yes|Pro}}
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 | He needs to work on formatting
 | [[:/dev]]
-| [[User:Balloonhead66|Balloonhead66]]
+| [[User:5urd|5urd]]
 |-
 | {{yes|Pro}}
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 | [[Timberline 5G77a (iPod touch 2G)]]
 | [[User:liamchat|liamchat]]
 |-
 | {{yes|Pro}}
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 ===useless/incorrect keys===
 i check every key i post and use the kbag's as evidence to prove it works --[[User:Liamchat|liamchat]] 17:28, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
-:Where? I personally have tested almost all VFDecrypt keys he has posted and they are correct --[[User:Balloonhead66|Balloonhead66]] 00:23, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
+:Where? I personally have tested almost all VFDecrypt keys he has posted and they are correct --[[User:5urd|5urd]] 00:23, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
 Kernelcache keys for wrong AP posted (expected: n90; actual:k48)
-[http://theiphonewiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=JasperVail_8C148_(iPhone_4)&oldid=13282#kernelcache] [http://theiphonewiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=JasperVail_8C148_%28iPhone_4%29&diff=13354&oldid=13282] Note that keys were correct, but not for the target AP. A4 firmware is tricky ;)
+[{{FULLURL:JasperVail 8C148 (iPhone 4)|oldid=13282#kernelcache}}] [{{FULLURL:JasperVail 8C148 (iPhone_4)|diff=13354&oldid=13282}}] Note that keys were correct, but not for the target AP. A4 firmware is tricky ;)
 === Conclusions ===
 I can see a lot of haters and some problems. I don't think we should ban him for what he has done. What seems to be proven for me is that he wants to make himself important. He is clearly no hacker and hasn't contributed any real value in this wiki. But this applies to many others also (maybe also to me?)
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 == [[:/|Firmware]] ==
 Please follow the standard format for folders:
  A short summary of this folder
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  List of parents... Example: <nowiki>[[/|Root]]/[[/var|var]]/[[/var/stash|stash]]/[[/var/stash/Applications.*****|Applications.*****]]</nowiki>
 and the fomat for files:
  a short summary
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  == Parents ==
  same as above
---[[User:Balloonhead66|Balloonhead66]] 16:23, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
+--[[User:5urd|5urd]] 16:23, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

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 ==We love you liamchat==
 Now go away! --[[User:Ifish|Ifish]] 15:45, 30 October 2010 (UTC)ifish
-:if you think you can do my work then you can finish my transcript [[25C3_presentation_Hacking_the_iPhone]] --[[User:Liamchat|liamchat]] 15:51, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
+:if you think you can do my work then you can finish my transcript [[25C3 presentation "Hacking the iPhone"]] --[[User:Liamchat|liamchat]] 15:51, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
 ::k--[[User:Ifish|Ifish]] 16:13, 30 October 2010 (UTC)ifish
 :::what does "k" mean --[[User:Liamchat|liamchat]] 16:14, 30 October 2010 (UTC)