Talk:Kernel/2013 - Revision history

Spydar007 at 14:37, 29 March 2017

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IAdam1n at 01:05, 4 January 2014

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IAdam1n: /* Version List */

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‎Version List

IAdam1n: Multiple fixes.

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Multiple fixes.

5urd at 20:36, 28 July 2013

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IAdam1n at 12:59, 28 July 2013

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IAdam1n: /* RELEASE_ARM */ new section

2013-07-28T12:58:52Z

‎RELEASE_ARM: new section

IAdam1n: Created

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== XNU? ==
Isn't it XNU Kernel, not Darwin? Darwin was the name of the Operating System the last I knew of. --[[User:JacobVengeance|Jacob]] 22:57, 3 September 2011 (MDT)
:Yep. Fixed. [[User:Beej|beej]] 15:51, 7 September 2011 (MDT)

== Version List ==
AFAIK, the kernel version used in the iPad 4 (3G) and iPad mini (3G) use a different version **number** (and build date), although I may be wrong. Because of this, I think we should split it up by device. If we can't do that, I would like to do something about the variations in [[application processor]]. Maybe splitting up by revisions ([[S5L8720]], [[S5L8920]], etc.) or replacing it with something like <code>S5L89xx</code> (<code>S5L8xxx</code> for ones that the [[n72ap]] use). I personally don't like the second option as the <code>x</code>'s aren't really in the build string. For the first option, maybe something along the lines of:
{| class ="wikitable"
|-
! Version
! Build
! [[S5L8900]]
! [[S5L8720]]
|-
! rowspan="2" | 2.0
! 5A345
| herp derp 3G
| {{n/a}}
|-
! 5A347
| herp derp
| herp derp
|}
(obviously split up by major releases). This might work because, for example, with [[S5L890]], that's 3 devices put into one column, and 5 devices for [[S5L8930|A4]] in one, as opposed to [[VFDecrypt Keys]] where each device has it own column. Any thoughts? --[[User:5urd|5urd]] 15:53, 22 November 2012 (MST)
:This is the Kernel page. I don't see any reason to introduce device-specific lists here unless absolutely necessary. Even if some identifier string is different, that's not reason enough. --[[User:Http|http]] 06:15, 23 November 2012 (MST)
:: I am not necessarly against device specific lists, but the version list is far from being 'complete' yet. So I think this shall be done first. --[[User:M2m|M2m]] 19:32, 23 November 2012 (MST)
:::Is this list even needed? What use is listing them? --[[User:Adaminsull|adaminsull]] ([[User talk:Adaminsull|talk]]) 23:53, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
::::History :) --[[User:M2m|M2m]] ([[User talk:M2m|talk]]) 12:08, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
:::::Meh. I suppose if I get free time I will add some of the missing ones. --[[User:Adaminsull|adaminsull]] ([[User talk:Adaminsull|talk]]) 12:52, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

== Finding the version of kernel ==

How do you find the kernel version? --[[User:Adaminsull|adaminsull]] ([[User talk:Adaminsull|talk]]) 11:49, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
: Either "uname -a" in terminal of a JB'ed device. Or as part of the Diagnostics & Usage Data (Latest Crash, LowMemory, etc).--[[User:M2m|M2m]] ([[User talk:M2m|talk]]) 12:11, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
:: Ah ok thanks. --[[User:Adaminsull|adaminsull]] ([[User talk:Adaminsull|talk]]) 13:22, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

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 | herp derp
 |}
-(obviously split up by major releases). This might work because, for example, with [[S5L890]], that's 3 devices put into one column, and 5 devices for [[S5L8930|A4]] in one, as opposed to [[VFDecrypt Keys]] where each device has it own column. Any thoughts? --[[User:5urd|5urd]] 15:53, 22 November 2012 (MST)
+(obviously split up by major releases). This might work because, for example, with [[S5L890]], that's 3 devices put into one column, and 5 devices for [[S5L8930|A4]] in one, as opposed to [[Firmware Keys]] where each device has it own column. Any thoughts? --[[User:5urd|5urd]] 15:53, 22 November 2012 (MST)
 :This is the Kernel page. I don't see any reason to introduce device-specific lists here unless absolutely necessary. Even if some identifier string is different, that's not reason enough. --[[User:Http|http]] 06:15, 23 November 2012 (MST)
 :: I am not necessarly against device specific lists, but the version list is far from being 'complete' yet. So I think this shall be done first. --[[User:M2m|M2m]] 19:32, 23 November 2012 (MST)
-:::Is this list even needed? What use is listing them? --[[User:Adaminsull|adaminsull]] ([[User talk:Adaminsull|talk]]) 23:53, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
+:::Is this list even needed? What use is listing them? --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 23:53, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
 ::::History :) --[[User:M2m|M2m]] ([[User talk:M2m|talk]]) 12:08, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
-:::::Meh. I suppose if I get free time I will add some of the missing ones. --[[User:Adaminsull|adaminsull]] ([[User talk:Adaminsull|talk]]) 12:52, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
+:::::Meh. I suppose if I get free time I will add some of the missing ones. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 12:52, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
 == Finding the version of kernel ==
-How do you find the kernel version? --[[User:Adaminsull|adaminsull]] ([[User talk:Adaminsull|talk]]) 11:49, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
+How do you find the kernel version? --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 11:49, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
 : Either "uname -a" in terminal of a JB'ed device. Or as part of the Diagnostics & Usage Data (Latest Crash, LowMemory, etc).--[[User:M2m|M2m]] ([[User talk:M2m|talk]]) 12:11, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
-:: Ah ok thanks. --[[User:Adaminsull|adaminsull]] ([[User talk:Adaminsull|talk]]) 13:22, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
+:: Ah ok thanks. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 13:22, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
 == RELEASE_ARM ==
-I was wondering, could we remove the RELEASE_ARM as it does vary by processor and can be vey confusing? If so I am willing to remove it. --[[User:Adaminsull|adaminsull]] ([[User talk:Adaminsull|talk]]) 17:25, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
+I was wondering, could we remove the RELEASE_ARM as it does vary by processor and can be vey confusing? If so I am willing to remove it. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 17:25, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
 : I think the complete string as it appears should be listed. We don't need a link on the processor though. --[[User:Http|http]] ([[User talk:Http|talk]]) 00:02, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
-:: So do you mean delete processor but keep RELEASE_ARM at the end? --[[User:Adaminsull|adaminsull]] ([[User talk:Adaminsull|talk]]) 00:17, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
+:: So do you mean delete processor but keep RELEASE_ARM at the end? --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 00:17, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
 ::: No, just the link, not any text. --[[User:Http|http]] ([[User talk:Http|talk]]) 01:20, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
-:::: What do you mean? Example please. --[[User:Adaminsull|adaminsull]] ([[User talk:Adaminsull|talk]]) 09:57, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
+:::: What do you mean? Example please. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 09:57, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
-:::: I see. Is the processor really needed though as it just makes it harder to detect? --[[User:Adaminsull|adaminsull]] ([[User talk:Adaminsull|talk]]) 23:59, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
+:::: I see. Is the processor really needed though as it just makes it harder to detect? --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 23:59, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
 :I believe an [[#Version List|earlier discussion]] covered this somewhat. I'm against removing it as then the string is not the exact string that would be produced by the device. For someone writing a tool to parse the strings, it should be pretty obvious that the RELEASE_ARM part varies between processors. --[[User:5urd|5urd]] ([[User talk:5urd|talk]]) 00:10, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

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 == RELEASE_ARM ==
 : I think the complete string as it appears should be listed. We don't need a link on the processor though. --[[User:Http|http]] ([[User talk:Http|talk]]) 00:02, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
 :: So do you mean delete processor but keep RELEASE_ARM at the end? --[[User:Adaminsull|adaminsull]] ([[User talk:Adaminsull|talk]]) 00:17, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

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	: Either "uname -a" in terminal of a JB'ed device. Or as part of the Diagnostics & Usage Data (Latest Crash, LowMemory, etc).--[[User:M2m\|M2m]] ([[User talk:M2m\|talk]]) 12:11, 2 February 2013 (UTC)		: Either "uname -a" in terminal of a JB'ed device. Or as part of the Diagnostics & Usage Data (Latest Crash, LowMemory, etc).--[[User:M2m\|M2m]] ([[User talk:M2m\|talk]]) 12:11, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
	:: Ah ok thanks. --[[User:Adaminsull\|adaminsull]] ([[User talk:Adaminsull\|talk]]) 13:22, 2 February 2013 (UTC)		:: Ah ok thanks. --[[User:Adaminsull\|adaminsull]] ([[User talk:Adaminsull\|talk]]) 13:22, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
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		+	== RELEASE_ARM ==
		+
		+	I was wondering, could we remove the RELEASE_ARM as it does vary by processor and can be vey confusing? If so I am willing to remove it. --[[User:Adaminsull\|adaminsull]] ([[User talk:Adaminsull\|talk]]) 17:25, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
		+	: I think the complete string as it appears should be listed. We don't need a link on the processor though. --[[User:Http\|http]] ([[User talk:Http\|talk]]) 00:02, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
		+	:: So do you mean delete processor but keep RELEASE_ARM at the end? --[[User:Adaminsull\|adaminsull]] ([[User talk:Adaminsull\|talk]]) 00:17, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
		+	::: No, just the link, not any text. --[[User:Http\|http]] ([[User talk:Http\|talk]]) 01:20, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
		+	:::: What do you mean? Example please. --[[User:Adaminsull\|adaminsull]] ([[User talk:Adaminsull\|talk]]) 09:57, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
		+	:::: I see. Is the processor really needed though as it just makes it harder to detect? --[[User:Adaminsull\|adaminsull]] ([[User talk:Adaminsull\|talk]]) 23:59, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
		+	:I believe an [[#Version List\|earlier discussion]] covered this somewhat. I'm against removing it as then the string is not the exact string that would be produced by the device. For someone writing a tool to parse the strings, it should be pretty obvious that the RELEASE_ARM part varies between processors. --[[User:5urd\|5urd]] ([[User talk:5urd\|talk]]) 00:10, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

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 == Version List ==
-AFAIK, the kernel version used in the iPad 4 (3G) and iPad mini (3G) use a different version **number** (and build date), although I may be wrong. Because of this, I think we should split it up by device. If we can't do that, I would like to do something about the variations in [[application processor]]. Maybe splitting up by revisions ([[S5L8720]], [[S5L8920]], etc.) or replacing it with something like <code>S5L89xx</code> (<code>S5L8xxx</code> for ones that the [[n72ap]] use). I personally don't like the second option as the <code>x</code>'s aren't really in the build string. For the first option, maybe something along the lines of:
+AFAIK, the kernel version used in the iPad 4 (3G) and iPad mini (3G) use a different version **number** (and build date), although I may be wrong. Because of this, I think we should split it up by device. If we can't do that, I would like to do something about the variations in [[application processor]]. Maybe splitting up by revisions ([[S5L8720]], [[S5L8920]], etc.) or replacing it with something like <code>S5L89xx</code> (<code>S5L8xxx</code> for ones that the [[N72AP]] use). I personally don't like the second option as the <code>x</code>'s aren't really in the build string. For the first option, maybe something along the lines of:
 {| class ="wikitable"
 |-

@@ Line 12: / Line 12: @@
 ! [[S5L8720]]
 |-
-! rowspan="2" class="nobborderplz" | 2.0
+! rowspan="2" | 2.0
 ! 5A345
 | herp derp 3G