Talk:Firmware/2010 - Revision history

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5urd at 03:59, 6 November 2010

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5urd: New page: {{Archive Page|Talk:Firmware}} ==Protected URLs== What do you mean by protected? iTunes has to dl it somehow {{unsigned|Geohot|02:20, August 5, 2008 (UTC)}} :itunes probably checks to see...

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New page: {{Archive Page|Talk:Firmware}} ==Protected URLs== What do you mean by protected? iTunes has to dl it somehow {{unsigned|Geohot|02:20, August 5, 2008 (UTC)}} :itunes probably checks to see...

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{{Archive Page|Talk:Firmware}}

==Protected URLs==
What do you mean by protected? iTunes has to dl it somehow {{unsigned|Geohot|02:20, August 5, 2008 (UTC)}}
:itunes probably checks to see if u bought it somehow... {{unsigned|ChronicDev|02:35, August 5, 2008 (UTC)}}
::o yea, forgot you had to pay for it :-) i wonder if the iPhone one would run easily? {{unsigned|Geohot|03:46, August 5, 2008 (UTC)}}
:::funny you should mention that. my friend np1011357 got a 2.0 fw working, but I don't think people are brave enough to test any further
::::I do know you have to be pwned for it to work though... {{unsigned|ChronicDev|05:34, August 5, 2008 (UTC)}}
:::::I've never had any luck myself, but I suppose anything's possible :-)
As for the actual word 'protected', the URLs in the XML are prefixed protected://. Perhaps those URLs are still of value?
BTW, as far as I know, having a 2.0 beta installed will still allow "free" upgrades to 2.0. --[[User:Haldo|Haldo]] 13:39, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
::::::After reading a post on Zibri's blog today, I tested (and confirmed) that the iPod touch 2.0.1 firmware could be downloaded from Apple's servers. Should this URL be provided on this page? -[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] 00:29, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
:::::::That is a tough question... I may have to defer to geohot for that. It is unfortunately very much a gray area. Maybe we link to the file linked by Zibri? --[[User:Haldo|Haldo]] 20:47, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
:::::::well if its on apples servers, then we are not really 'hosting' warez, not could we be connected to hosting it at all, unlike if someone uploaded it to rapidshare, then there would be reason to believe we were involved. although its a community wiki, for something like this, it is geohot's call. {{unsigned|ChronicDev|00:35, August 6, 2008 (UTC)}}
::::::::My thinking is this. If Apple sells it, no download link should be posted here. But perhaps a link to Zibri's page about it in the resources area. ~geohot

== WOW ==
ffs guys. i was hoping someone would figure this out. Anyone at all could just type 'strings iTunes' on the iTunes binary, and see that there is a link saying http://itunes.com/version, then another directly after is '?touchUpdate=yes". It's not even that hard if u disassembeld it in IDA {{unsigned|ChronicDev|18:54, September 23, 2008 (UTC)}}

== Tethered Jailbreak ==
at this point with ipt3g a tethered jailbreak may be the only option we have. the chances of another bootrom exploit being found are rather slim. And find an untethering exploit beyond that is stupid/pointless. I know a tethered exploit sucks, but there's a real chance that this may be the only thing that's left! Should we mark is as "yes jailbreakable" or not? I say take it and be happy with what you got!!
--[[User:Posixninja|posixninja]] 13:22, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
:I see what you mean, and I tend to agree for the most part, but a tethered jailbreak just isn't a complete jailbreak in my opinion. Plus if people keep looking I know a tether-less jailbreak will be found eventually, nothing is unhackable ;) --[[User:Rekoil|adriaaan]] 19:39, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
::I wish that was true, but most people average 1 exploit for every so many kilobytes, and bootrom really isn't very large. Even then there's a limited number of injection vectors to exploits. So the chances of bootrom becoming exploitable is actually a real risk!! every exploit that is found greatly decreases the chances another exploit will be found. Within the next 2-3 years jailbreaking on iphone will probably be extinct. 4 years max
--[[User:Posixninja|posixninja]] 04:36, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
:::Well then in the next two years we'll "borrow one of nsa's super computers and extract the private signing key :D. Or get hold of a developer model and maybe there will be some interesting stuff on it. {{unsigned|Revolution|12:11, October 15, 2009 (UTC)}}

==Updated Bootroms==
How can we note on this page that for some 3gs and touch 2G users (ones after September 9) they can only have a tethered jailbreak at the moment. [[User:Iemit737|Iemit737]] 18:07, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

== Easily find rare firmwares using Google. ==
A handy way to search for firmwares, is to just search in Google using the corresponding listed SHA1 Hash (or even just the file size) as your query. Perhaps someone feels like editing the wiki so that the SHA1 strings become links to the right Google search results. Example: http://www.google.com/search?q=7367dd9ba58a3b9777307368a0128e696fdfc9a6 and http://www.google.com/search?q=249%2C780%2C497 [[User:Harlekeyn|Harlekeyn]] 22:59, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
:I say no. Links for some of the iPod touch firmwares are missing because [https://buy.itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZFinance.woa/wa/touchLandingPage Apple sells or sold them]. Not to mention, Apple's links to download them expire over time. (A third-party site hosting the firmware is copyright violation, which is a big no-no.) --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] 06:51, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

==4.0 Jailbreak==
There is a userland exploit out there, and @comex (et al.) have verified that will likely work on iPhone 4 too. There is no such case as iPhone 4 having an exploit that an iPod touch 3G does not. Also this page displays if a jailbreak tool is available, not if a jailbreak has been demonstrated by geohot/chronic/dev-team/comex or Santa. -- [[User:Iemit737|Iemit737]] 21:55, 2 July 2010 (UTC
:[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]], ok it sounds better now. But you also removed the two other jailbreak possibilites for 4.0:
*with 3.1.2 shsh (this one is listed)
*if still running 3.1.2, but no shsh
*old bootrom
And what does OTB stand for? -- [[User:Http|http]] 22:51, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
::OTB stands for "'''O'''ut of '''T'''he '''B'''ox." I'll fix it up now. --[[User:Dialexio|<span style="color:#C20; font-weight:normal;">Dialexio</span>]] 23:07, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
:::I saw that you changed it to ''virgin'', but not everywhere. Can you make it consistent? -- [[User:Http|http]] 05:18, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
::::Done. :) --[[User:Dialexio|<span style="color:#C20; font-weight:normal;">Dialexio</span>]] 05:23, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

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 == Add defunct firmwares? ==
-There are some defunct firmware builds referenced in Apple's XML file (i.e.- [[M68ap|iPhone 2G]] 3A101a). Should these be added to this page, or not?
+There are some defunct firmware builds referenced in Apple's XML file (i.e.- [[M68AP|iPhone 2G]] 3A101a). Should these be added to this page, or not?
 -[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] 20:05, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
 :can we add recovery firmware like [http://appldnld.apple.com.edgesuite.net/content.info.apple.com/iPhone/061-6618.20090617.Xse7Y/x12220000_5_Recovery.ipsw x12220000_5_Recovery.ipsw] and the ipod touch 1g had firmware 1.0 [http://appldnld.apple.com/iPod/SBML/osx/bundles/061-9054.20100907.VKPt5/iPod_1.0_36A00403.ipsw iPod_1.0_36A00403.ipsw] --[[User:Liamchat|liamchat]] 15:18, October 29, 2010 (UTC)
-::I wouldn't add the recovery IPSWs on this page... maybe they could have its own page, though. The "1.0" firmware that you linked to is definitely not for the iPod touch 1G; it's not set up like an [[IPSW File Format|IPSW]] that contains/uses iOS (there are only three files inside of it, one of which references "N20", not "[[N45ap|N45]]"), and the URL has a reference to the date September 7, 2010. I believe the URL is for the iPod nano 6G's firmware. --[[User:Dialexio|<span style="color:#C20; font-weight:normal;">Dialexio</span>]] 15:33, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
+::I wouldn't add the recovery IPSWs on this page... maybe they could have its own page, though. The "1.0" firmware that you linked to is definitely not for the iPod touch 1G; it's not set up like an [[IPSW File Format|IPSW]] that contains/uses iOS (there are only three files inside of it, one of which references "N20", not "[[N45AP|N45]]"), and the URL has a reference to the date September 7, 2010. I believe the URL is for the iPod nano 6G's firmware. --[[User:Dialexio|<span style="color:#C20; font-weight:normal;">Dialexio</span>]] 15:33, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
 :::iPod nano 4G and newer IPSWs have about 8 files inside (Just like the devices this website is about have Applelogo, Recovery, ChargingGlyph,...). If it has 3 files (osos, aupd, rsrc) it's for a "middle age" iPod and the first models required 4 files. [http://www.freemyipod.org/wiki/Firmware Enjoy!] --[[User:Ryccardo|Ryccardo]] 15:56, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
 :::BTW, the file Liamchat mentioned is for the "iPod touch not labeled as such and without the App Store" [http://www.trejan.com/projects/ipod/phobos.html#REGFIRMWARE Source]. --[[User:Ryccardo|Ryccardo]] 16:04, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
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 == Naming inconsistency ==
-We have a separate page for each firmware, named with a name, a build number, and in brackets for which device (like "[[Kirkwood 7A341 (iPhone 3GS)]]"). Fine. But where does this name (Kirkwood) come from? I saw that there is a conflict for some names. Some are named Apex and others ApexVail, some Baker, others BakerVail, some Jasper, others JasperVail, some NorthVail, others Northstar, etc. Can we rename some of those? And to what? -- [[User:Http|http]] 23:22, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
+We have a separate page for each firmware, named with a name, a build number, and in brackets for which device (like "[[Kirkwood 7A341 (iPhone2,1)|Kirkwood 7A341 (iPhone 3GS)]]"). Fine. But where does this name (Kirkwood) come from? I saw that there is a conflict for some names. Some are named Apex and others ApexVail, some Baker, others BakerVail, some Jasper, others JasperVail, some NorthVail, others Northstar, etc. Can we rename some of those? And to what? -- [[User:Http|http]] 23:22, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
 :I would remove the ones without vail as a decrypted firmware shows vail in the name... --[[User:5urd|5urd]] 23:24, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
 ::"Vail" identifies a private (non-GM) beta. --[[User:Ryccardo|Ryccardo]] 14:42, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
 ::All beta rootFS images end with "N88DeveloperOS" in the label instead of "N88OS". --[[User:Ryccardo|Ryccardo]] 14:44, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
-:::Now we have the mess. We have a page called [[Apex 8A293 (iPhone 3GS)]] for the final version and a page called [[ApexVail 8A293 (iPhone 3GS)]] for the GM release. Both have the same build number. What should we do in this case? -- [[User:Http|http]] 21:27, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
+:::Now we have the mess. We have a page called [[Apex 8A293 (iPhone2,1)|Apex 8A293 (iPhone 3GS)]] for the final version and a page called [[ApexVail 8A293 (iPhone2,1)|ApexVail 8A293 (iPhone 3GS)]] for the GM release. Both have the same build number. What should we do in this case? -- [[User:Http|http]] 21:27, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
 ::::I wouldn't say that is a mess, in that case, the GM was the same as the Final as they didn't find anything wrong with it --[[User:5urd|5urd]] 23:42, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
 :::::If I'm not mistaken, "ApexVail" is actually an incorrect name; I think the GM was named "Apex." I think the "Apex" page should stay, and denote the GM VFDecrypt key on it. --[[User:Dialexio|<span style="color:#C20; font-weight:normal;">Dialexio</span>]] 23:55, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

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 == Naming inconsistency ==
 We have a separate page for each firmware, named with a name, a build number, and in brackets for which device (like "[[Kirkwood 7A341 (iPhone 3GS)]]"). Fine. But where does this name (Kirkwood) come from? I saw that there is a conflict for some names. Some are named Apex and others ApexVail, some Baker, others BakerVail, some Jasper, others JasperVail, some NorthVail, others Northstar, etc. Can we rename some of those? And to what? -- [[User:Http|http]] 23:22, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
-:I would remove the ones without vail as a decrypted firmware shows vail in the name... --[[User:Balloonhead66|Balloonhead66]] 23:24, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
+:I would remove the ones without vail as a decrypted firmware shows vail in the name... --[[User:5urd|5urd]] 23:24, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
 ::"Vail" identifies a private (non-GM) beta. --[[User:Ryccardo|Ryccardo]] 14:42, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
 ::All beta rootFS images end with "N88DeveloperOS" in the label instead of "N88OS". --[[User:Ryccardo|Ryccardo]] 14:44, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
 :::Now we have the mess. We have a page called [[Apex 8A293 (iPhone 3GS)]] for the final version and a page called [[ApexVail 8A293 (iPhone 3GS)]] for the GM release. Both have the same build number. What should we do in this case? -- [[User:Http|http]] 21:27, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
-::::I wouldn't say that is a mess, in that case, the GM was the same as the Final as they didn't find anything wrong with it --[[User:Balloonhead66|Balloonhead66]] 23:42, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
+::::I wouldn't say that is a mess, in that case, the GM was the same as the Final as they didn't find anything wrong with it --[[User:5urd|5urd]] 23:42, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
 :::::If I'm not mistaken, "ApexVail" is actually an incorrect name; I think the GM was named "Apex." I think the "Apex" page should stay, and denote the GM VFDecrypt key on it. --[[User:Dialexio|<span style="color:#C20; font-weight:normal;">Dialexio</span>]] 23:55, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
-::::::ApexVail is correct --[[User:Balloonhead66|Balloonhead66]] 00:11, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
+::::::ApexVail is correct --[[User:5urd|5urd]] 00:11, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
 :::::::ApexVail, because *this* GM uses UUID whitelist activation. --[[User:Ryccardo|Ryccardo]] 13:29, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
 ::::::::Hmm... I took another peek at GM builds of iOS 4.0, and both the BuildManifest.plist and filesystem carry the name "Apex," not "ApexVail..." --[[User:Dialexio|<span style="color:#C20; font-weight:normal;">Dialexio</span>]] 22:24, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
-:::::::::Now that is a confusing predicament :P --[[User:Balloonhead66|Balloonhead66]] 22:26, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
+:::::::::Now that is a confusing predicament :P --[[User:5urd|5urd]] 22:26, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
 == 4.2.1 JB on IPT2G MC ==

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 :::::I've never had any luck myself, but I suppose anything's possible :-)
 ::::::As for the actual word 'protected', the URLs in the XML are prefixed protected://.  Perhaps those URLs are still of value?
-BTW, as far as I know, having a 2.0 beta installed will still allow "free" upgrades to 2.0.  --[[User:Haldo|Haldo]] 13:39, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
+:::::::BTW, as far as I know, having a 2.0 beta installed will still allow "free" upgrades to 2.0.  --[[User:Haldo|Haldo]] 13:39, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
-:::::::After reading a post on Zibri's blog today, I tested (and confirmed) that the iPod touch 2.0.1 firmware could be downloaded from Apple's servers. Should this URL be provided on this page? -[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] 00:29, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
+::::::::After reading a post on Zibri's blog today, I tested (and confirmed) that the iPod touch 2.0.1 firmware could be downloaded from Apple's servers. Should this URL be provided on this page? -[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] 00:29, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
-::::::::That is a tough question... I may have to defer to geohot for that.  It is unfortunately very much a gray area.  Maybe we link to the file linked by Zibri? --[[User:Haldo|Haldo]] 20:47, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
+:::::::::That is a tough question... I may have to defer to geohot for that.  It is unfortunately very much a gray area.  Maybe we link to the file linked by Zibri? --[[User:Haldo|Haldo]] 20:47, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
-::::::::well if its on apples servers, then we are not really 'hosting' warez, not could we be connected to hosting it at all, unlike if someone uploaded it to rapidshare, then there would be reason to believe we were involved. although its a community wiki, for something like this, it is geohot's call. {{unsigned|ChronicDev|00:35, August 6, 2008 (UTC)}}
+::::::::::well if its on apples servers, then we are not really 'hosting' warez, not could we be connected to hosting it at all, unlike if someone uploaded it to rapidshare, then there would be reason to believe we were involved. although its a community wiki, for something like this, it is geohot's call. {{unsigned|ChronicDev|00:35, August 6, 2008 (UTC)}}
-:::::::::My thinking is this. If Apple sells it, no download link should be posted here. But perhaps a link to Zibri's page about it in the resources area. ~geohot
+:::::::::::My thinking is this. If Apple sells it, no download link should be posted here. But perhaps a link to Zibri's page about it in the resources area. ~geohot
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 {{Archive Page}}
 == Easily find rare firmwares using Google. ==
 A handy way to search for firmwares, is to just search in Google using the corresponding listed SHA1 Hash (or even just the file size) as your query. Perhaps someone feels like editing the wiki so that the SHA1 strings become links to the right Google search results. Example: http://www.google.com/search?q=7367dd9ba58a3b9777307368a0128e696fdfc9a6 and http://www.google.com/search?q=249%2C780%2C497 [[User:Harlekeyn|Harlekeyn]] 22:59, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

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 ==Protected URLs==
 What do you mean by protected? iTunes has to dl it somehow {{unsigned|Geohot|02:20, August 5, 2008 (UTC)}}
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 == WOW ==
 ffs guys. i was hoping someone would figure this out. Anyone at all could just type 'strings iTunes' on the iTunes binary, and see that there is a link saying http://itunes.com/version, then another directly after is '?touchUpdate=yes". It's not even that hard if u disassembeld it in IDA {{unsigned|ChronicDev|18:54, September 23, 2008 (UTC)}}
 == Easily find rare firmwares using Google. ==

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 What do you mean by protected? iTunes has to dl it somehow {{unsigned|Geohot|02:20, August 5, 2008 (UTC)}}
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 == WOW ==
 ffs guys. i was hoping someone would figure this out. Anyone at all could just type 'strings iTunes' on the iTunes binary, and see that there is a link saying http://itunes.com/version, then another directly after is '?touchUpdate=yes". It's not even that hard if u disassembeld it in IDA {{unsigned|ChronicDev|18:54, September 23, 2008 (UTC)}}
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 --[[User:Posixninja|posixninja]] 04:36, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
 :::Well then in the next two years we'll "borrow one of nsa's super computers and extract the private signing key :D. Or get hold of a developer model and maybe there will be some interesting stuff on it. {{unsigned|Revolution|12:11, October 15, 2009 (UTC)}}
 ==Updated Bootroms==
 How can we note on this page that for some 3gs and touch 2G users (ones after September 9) they can only have a tethered jailbreak at the moment. [[User:Iemit737|Iemit737]] 18:07, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
 == Easily find rare firmwares using Google. ==
 A handy way to search for firmwares, is to just search in Google using the corresponding listed SHA1 Hash (or even just the file size) as your query. Perhaps someone feels like editing the wiki so that the SHA1 strings become links to the right Google search results. Example: http://www.google.com/search?q=7367dd9ba58a3b9777307368a0128e696fdfc9a6 and http://www.google.com/search?q=249%2C780%2C497 [[User:Harlekeyn|Harlekeyn]] 22:59, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
 :I say no. Links for some of the iPod touch firmwares are missing because [https://buy.itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZFinance.woa/wa/touchLandingPage Apple sells or sold them]. Not to mention, Apple's links to download them expire over time. (A third-party site hosting the firmware is copyright violation, which is a big no-no.) --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] 06:51, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
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 :::I saw that you changed it to ''virgin'', but not everywhere. Can you make it consistent? -- [[User:Http|http]] 05:18, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
 ::::Done. :) --[[User:Dialexio|<span style="color:#C20; font-weight:normal;">Dialexio</span>]] 05:23, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

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