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		<title>5urd at 00:16, 19 February 2013</title>
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #222; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 00:16, 19 February 2013&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;== Clarification of &quot;Can be unlocked&quot; ? ==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;== Clarification of &quot;Can be unlocked&quot; ? ==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I think we need a clarification what the &quot;Can be unlocked?&quot;-Column means. Because Northstar 7C144 on the 3G can be unlocked using pwnage (i.e. if you stay at BB 04.26.08). However if you'd upgrade to BB 05.11.07 it can't. --[[User:M2m|M2m]] 03:17, 16 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I think we need a clarification what the &quot;Can be unlocked?&quot;-Column means. Because Northstar 7C144 on the 3G can be unlocked using pwnage (i.e. if you stay at BB 04.26.08). However if you'd upgrade to BB 05.11.07 it can't. --[[User:M2m|M2m]] 03:17, 16 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::::What about changing the title of the column to say &quot;Can baseband be unlocked?&quot; and then only answer yes if there is an unlock available for the baseband included in that version? [[User:Rekoil|Rekoil]] 21:26, 17 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::::What about changing the title of the column to say &quot;Can baseband be unlocked?&quot; and then only answer yes if there is an unlock available for the baseband included in that version? [[User:Rekoil|Rekoil]] 21:26, 17 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:::::I've changed it to say yes only on the rows with basebands that can be unlocked &quot;OTB&quot;. No one should have problems figuring out that you can upgrade to a version that can be unlocked if you're at a version below that cannot be unlocked. But maybe a clarification that you cannot downgrade basebands? --[[User:Rekoil|adriaaan]] 15:16, 14 October 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:::::I've changed it to say yes only on the rows with basebands that can be unlocked &quot;OTB&quot;. No one should have problems figuring out that you can upgrade to a version that can be unlocked if you're at a version below that cannot be unlocked. But maybe a clarification that you cannot downgrade basebands? --[[User:Rekoil|adriaaan]] 15:16, 14 October 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;== Tethered Jailbreak ==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-empty&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;at this point with ipt3g a tethered jailbreak may be the only option we have. the chances of another bootrom exploit being found are rather slim. And find an untethering exploit beyond that is stupid/pointless.  I know a tethered exploit sucks, but there's a real chance that this may be the only thing that's left!  Should we mark is as &quot;yes jailbreakable&quot; or not? I say take it and be happy with what you got!!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;--[[User:Posixninja|posixninja]] 13:22, 12 October 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-empty&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:I see what you mean, and I tend to agree for the most part, but a tethered jailbreak just isn't a complete jailbreak in my opinion. Plus if people keep looking I know a tether-less jailbreak will be found eventually, nothing is unhackable ;) --[[User:Rekoil|adriaaan]] 19:39, 12 October 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::I wish that was true, but most people average 1 exploit for every so many kilobytes, and bootrom really isn't very large.  Even then there's a limited number of injection vectors to exploits.  So the chances of bootrom becoming exploitable is actually a real risk!!   every exploit that is found greatly decreases the chances another exploit will be found.  Within the next 2-3 years jailbreaking on iphone will probably be extinct. 4 years max&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:::Well then in the next two years we'll &quot;borrow one of nsa's super computers and extract the private signing key :D. Or get hold of a developer model and maybe there will be some interesting stuff on it. {{unsigned|Revolution|12:11, October 15, 2009 (UTC)}}&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;How can we note on this page that for some 3gs and touch 2G users (ones after September 9) they can only have a tethered jailbreak at the moment. [[User:Iemit737|Iemit737]] 18:07, 31 October 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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		<title>5urd: 5urd moved page Talk:Firmware/Archive 1 to Talk:Firmware/2009 without leaving a redirect</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;5urd moved page &lt;a href=&quot;/w/index.php?title=Talk:Firmware/Archive_1&amp;amp;action=edit&amp;amp;redlink=1&quot; class=&quot;new&quot; title=&quot;Talk:Firmware/Archive 1 (page does not exist)&quot;&gt;Talk:Firmware/Archive 1&lt;/a&gt; to &lt;a href=&quot;/wiki/Talk:Firmware/2009&quot; title=&quot;Talk:Firmware/2009&quot;&gt;Talk:Firmware/2009&lt;/a&gt; without leaving a redirect&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>5urd at 20:56, 22 January 2011</title>
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  &lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I think we need a clarification what the &quot;Can be unlocked?&quot;-Column means. Because Northstar 7C144 on the 3G can be unlocked using pwnage (i.e. if you stay at BB 04.26.08). However if you'd upgrade to BB 05.11.07 it can't. --[[User:M2m|M2m]] 03:17, 16 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I think we need a clarification what the &quot;Can be unlocked?&quot;-Column means. Because Northstar 7C144 on the 3G can be unlocked using pwnage (i.e. if you stay at BB 04.26.08). However if you'd upgrade to BB 05.11.07 it can't. --[[User:M2m|M2m]] 03:17, 16 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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		<title>5urd: archived</title>
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  &lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;== Clarification of &quot;Can be unlocked&quot; ? ==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-empty&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I think we need a clarification what the &quot;Can be unlocked?&quot;-Column means. Because Northstar 7C144 on the 3G can be unlocked using pwnage (i.e. if you stay at BB 04.26.08). However if you'd upgrade to BB 05.11.07 it can't. --[[User:M2m|M2m]] 03:17, 16 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Quote Oranav: &quot;There's no point for an &quot;unlock&quot; column if we write &quot;yes, stay at X&quot;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:I totally agree on this, however the Columns also states ''&quot;Yes (Upgrade to 04.26.08)&quot;'' for BB 01.45.00 - 02.30.03, while technically currently a working implementation only is available for 04.26.08 (ultrasn0w - yellowsn0w is not available anymore AFAIK). Like this I would think for BB 01.45.00 - 02.30.03 it should also read ''&quot;No (Though you can upgrade to 04.26.08)&quot;'' - or something similar.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Therefore my statement/request for a clarification.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Regards --[[User:M2m|M2m]] 02:19, 17 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::I am of the opinion that if the BB that ships with the given Apple IPSW is not unlock(ed/able) then it should be marked NO. It should be made clear elsewhere that 04.26.08 is suitable for devices looking for an unlock. [[User:Haldo|Haldo]] 13:53, 17 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:::The main difference here is that for older firmwares there's an upgrade path towards unlock. For example, if you buy a 3G phone now with 2.0 and BB 01.45.00, it can be easily upgraded to 3.0 and unlocked. On the other hand, if the phone has 3.1 and 05.11.07 pre-installed, there's no such upgrade path. --[[User:Blackbox|Blackbox]] 18:22, 17 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::::What about changing the title of the column to say &quot;Can baseband be unlocked?&quot; and then only answer yes if there is an unlock available for the baseband included in that version? [[User:Rekoil|Rekoil]] 21:26, 17 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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