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D11AP

2018-07-22T11:04:33Z

Wites OM Tesla:

This is the [[iPhone 7 Plus]] (iPhone9,2) model.

The iPhone 7 Plus with coded name '''D11AP''' is a version of logic board type which has Qualcomm brand BB related IC's such as BB CPU, BB PMU and Transceivers, it's LB part number is '''BRD: 820-00229''' compared to '''D111AP''' which has Intel brand BB related IC's.
[[Category:Devices]]

D111AP

2018-07-22T11:02:28Z

Wites OM Tesla:

This is the [[iPhone 7 Plus]] (iPhone9,4) model.

The iPhone 7 Plus with coded name '''D111AP''' is a version of logic board type which has Intel brand BB related IC's such as BB CPU, BB PMIC and Transceivers, it's LB part number is '''BRD: 820-00249''' compared to '''D11AP''' which has Qualcomm BB related IC's.
[[Category:Devices]]

Talk:Models

2016-01-08T15:43:15Z

Wites OM Tesla: /* iPhone BOARD REVISION */

== Removed models ==
Dialexio, you removed some models. I created the list based on infos in this wiki. I didn't know though if every storage size exists with every color and every combination with both bootroms. Based on what info did you remove the non-existent rows? It seems you removed too many of them. I just saw that my old 3GS, black, new bootrom, 32GB, is a MC133 and is no more listed. Can you please re-check those you removed? Thanks. -- [[User:Http|http]] 07:43, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
:Whoops. For some reason, I was thinking that only 8 GB units had the new bootrom at that time. :s --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] 15:37, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

== Another model number ==
I think on this page we should also add the other model numbers (like the A1332 for the iPhone 4 black) somehow. How are they related? -- [[User:Http|http]] 15:24, 13 October 2011 (MDT)
:They are added in the meantime. --[[User:Http|http]] 00:28, 31 October 2012 (MDT)

== iPhone 4S ==
According to the [http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/iPhone-4S-Teardown/6610/1 iFitIt Teardown], the model number for the [[n92ap|iPhone 4S]] is A1387... --[[User:5urd|5urd]] 07:23, 14 October 2011 (MDT)
:For which 4S model? Color, memory? Or for all the same? Do you know more? -- [[User:Http|http]] 10:59, 14 October 2011 (MDT)
::Well, the teardown is black... I am guessing sinse they dont use the devices, it would be 8GB... But A1387 sounds like the hardware model, not the device model that starts with <code>MB</code> or <code>MC</code>... So all iPhone 4S's may be A1387... --[[User:5urd|5urd]] 15:37, 14 October 2011 (MDT)
:I also have an A1387. I would like to add this number in the list as well. But currently I have no infos. We don't know if this model is different for different memory, color, bootrom, production facility, or for what. Please post here, if you know more or if you have other numbers. This number is engraved on the phone itself (backside). There's also a code "EMC 2430". Let us know if you have a different number there. -- [[User:Http|http]] 05:05, 23 December 2011 (MST)
::My A1387 is also EMC 2430. It's a black AT&T 16GB [[User:Beej|beej]] 09:24, 23 December 2011 (MST)

== iPad 3 and Apple TV 3G ==

MD328LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 16GB WHITE – USA
MC705LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 16GB BLACK - USA
MD329LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 32GB WHITE – USA
MD706LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 32GB BLACK - USA
MD330LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 64GB WHITE - USA
MC707LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 64GB BLACK - USA

MD366LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 4G 16GB BLACK - USA
MD369LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 16GB WHITE - USA
MD367LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 4G 32GB BLACK - USA
MD370LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 32GB WHITE - USA
MD368LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 4G 64GB BLACK - USA
MD371LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 64GB WHITE - USA

MD098LL/A – APPLE DIGITAL AV ADAPTER
MD199LL/A – APPLE TV – USA
--[[User:5urd|5urd]] 19:43, 9 March 2012 (MST)

:And because Verizon Wireless must get their own special version, causing everybody more headaches…
MC733LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 16GB BLACK - USA
MD363LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 16GB WHITE - USA
MC744LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 32GB BLACK - USA
MD364LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 32GB WHITE - USA
MC756LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 64GB BLACK - USA
MD365LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 64GB WHITE - USA
:--[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] 20:04, 9 March 2012 (MST)
::So would I be right in assuming that the ones on mine are AT&T --[[User:5urd|5urd]] 23:05, 9 March 2012 (MST)
:::Yeah. --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] 00:41, 10 March 2012 (MST)

== Cutting up the table ==
In direct contrast to what I'd like to do on the Firmware page, I would like to divide this table by device type. I feel that it'd be a bit easier to maintain (and perhaps find information) if we had different tables for Apple TVs, iPads, iPad minis(?), iPhones, and iPod touches. --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] 22:22, 30 October 2012 (MDT)
:I would like to keep the basic structure of the table as it is. But yes, it may be separated by device type, as this is the left-most column and therefore wouldn't change anything. --[[User:Http|http]] 00:24, 31 October 2012 (MDT)
:Done --[[User:5urd|5urd]] 16:32, 31 October 2012 (MDT)

== [[iPhone 5]] China ==
Please see [http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3939 Apple KB HT3939]. There is no GSM model it is just CDMA. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 08:37, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
:Perhaps this topic requires more information, particularly from somebody with an A1442 iPhone. At this time, there are two carriers in China that offer the iPhone: China Telecom and China Unicom.[http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1937] [http://store.apple.com/cn/browse/home/shop_iphone/family/iphone5 Apple's online store] suggests they have two models: the China Unicom model is GSM-unlocked, while the China Telecom model (the one with the new ME model numbers) is locked. Since China Telecom's model is locked and they have a CDMA network, it may be possible that the A1442 model is a CDMA-only variant. However, http://www.apple.com.cn/iphone/specs.html does mention that all models have support for various HSPA technologies, and it doesn't seem plausible for Apple to go out of their way to remove GSM functionality from a design that can already handle GSM and CDMA connections. Plus, it's not entirely clear if it can actually be unlocked in the future (a la Verizon and the iPhone 4S). --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|talk]]) 09:57, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
:: That is strange as the two website contradict each other. I think we should wait for someone with one too. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 11:48, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
:Let me provide some insight on the internals here. Internally, the baseband chip is able to support ''both'' GSM and CDMA. It's up to the baseband firmware to choose what to use. There are two [[IPSW File Format|IPSW]]s for each release as one contains the baseband firmware to support the GSM LTE bands in the United States. The other (Global) contains the baseband firmware to support the GSM bands outside of the United States and the CDMA bands across the world (where the [[iPhone 5]] has been release). This means that all devices support GSM. So, even if the device was released in China where it is only CDMA (and the device was modified to only work on China CDMA), the Global firmware still contains GSM support. That's just my though here. The only exception here would be if the China [[iPhone 5]] didn't work with ''both'' [[n41ap|iPhone5,1]] and [[n42ap|iPhone5,2]] firmwares, but it does (iPhone5,2). --[[User:5urd|5urd]] ([[User talk:5urd|talk]]) 18:44, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

=== iPhone 5s China ===
There are also currently at least two 5s versions in China (http://store.apple.com/cn/buy-iphone/iphone5s)
* WCDMA/GSM iPhone A1528 (for China Unicom ??)
* iPhone A1533 (for China Telecom ??)

Just as reference I have a A1457 (got it in Germany), but it will not connect to the new 4G LTE in China Mobile network (even so I have a LTE sim card). According to China Mobile the A1530 (Hongkong version) can be used possibly in LTE (China Mobile) mode.--[[User:M2m|M2m]] ([[User talk:M2m|talk]]) 08:10, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

http://www.apple.com/iphone/LTE/ as reference. --[[User:M2m|M2m]] ([[User talk:M2m|talk]]) 08:17, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

== Finding new devices. ==

I was wondering how do you find the new device numbers like iPhone5,2? I know there is an info.plist but I'm not sure where it is located. Does this one update itself or what? --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 18:31, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

== Connector ==

So how do we add the iAccy1,2, A1438, with the [[S5L8747]] everywhere? It's not running [[iOS]], but still belongs into this wiki I think. --[[User:Http|http]] ([[User talk:Http|talk]]) 00:58, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
:I think that setting up the adapter's page similarly to the baseband pages (at [[iAccy1,2]]? I don't think it belongs on the SoC's page) would work best. The page can have a blurb about the accessory, a list of known firmware versions, and then the OTA updates. --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|talk]]) 01:41, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

== Bootrom versions. ==

How do w check the bootrom version of A5+? --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 23:57, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
:The same way as always: DFU Mode. The S5L8942 (at least the one found in the [[j33ap|Apple TV 3G]]) doesn't report a bootrom version, however. --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|talk]]) 00:09, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
:: System Profiler on Mac does not show it for iPod touch 5. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 00:15, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

== iPhone3,2 ==

Do we actually know that these are model numbers for the iPhone3,2, or is this just blind speculation like what happened with identifying the [[S5L8947]]? --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|talk]]) 22:24, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
:From store.apple.com. They are legit. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 22:53, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
::They could still be iPhone3,1 models though… The iPad2,4 case was about this simple, but Apple likes using a lot of various model numbers for each iPhone (much more than an iPad, anyways). Maybe I'm being too paranoid about this though. (Something to note is that some of the listed model numbers overlap with the iPhone3,1.) --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|talk]]) 04:12, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
:::Deleted them. I just left the ME as they are different. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 07:49, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

== iPhone BOARD REVISION ==
: oh? what exactly changed between the two models? --[[User:Haifisch|Haifisch]] ([[User talk:Haifisch|talk]]) 20:31, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
::The differences are between Network and Wi-Fi parts maybe something else i not know. [[User:Wites Om Tesla|Wites OM Tesla]] 22:21, 14 September 2014 (UTC+3)
:::I'm very sorry but i have to remove this information i don't want it to be here it must remain private [[User:Wites OM Tesla|iTesla]] ([[User talk:Wites OM Tesla|talk]]) 17:41, 8 January 2016 (UTC+2)

== What are the real names for old iPhone versions? ==
Does someone know what are the real names of old iPhones? I'm developing hardware step-by-step solutions and I write in each, for example, "iPhone 2G No Backlight Solution". Is this the real name or is is "iPhone 1" or even just "iPhone"? Same thing for the iPhone 3G because, as we all know, it's the second generation, not the third. Then the third generation, we call "iPhone 3GS". I'm very confused about what to call the old models. Maybe we should call them these instead:
iPhone 1
iPhone 2
iPhone 3
iPhone 4
iPhone 4S
...
--[[User:Wites OM Tesla|iTesla]] ([[User talk:Wites OM Tesla|talk]]) 20:41, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
:The first iPhone was just called "iPhone". Then the second generation came around, and Apple dubbed it the "iPhone 3G" because it added support for 3G networks (compared to the original supporting just EDGE (2.5G)). It's unclear when the original was dubbed the "iPhone 2G" (after the 3G or 3GS), but the "2G" moniker was added because: (1) it came before the 3G, and (2) EDGE, although 2.5G, is sometimes called 2G because it came before 3G. After the "iPhone 3G" was the "iPhone 3GS" ("S" standing for "speed" due to a faster processor and more RAM). After that was the "iPhone 4", then the "iPhone 4S" ("S" not for processor "speed" this time, but probably because a newer processor is inherently faster at the same clock rate). After that was the "iPhone 5", then the (note the lowercase letters) "iPhone 5s" (again, "s" for "speed") and "iPhone 5c" ("c" for "color"). After those, we got the "iPhone 6" and the "iPhone 6 Plus" ("plus" because it's bigger). Hope that clears things up for you. --[[User:5urd|5urd]] ([[User talk:5urd|talk]]) 20:56, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
::Thank you for your input. I think I will leave it as is. --[[User:Wites OM Tesla|iTesla]] ([[User talk:Wites OM Tesla|talk]]) 21:20, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

== "Variant" column ==

The "Variant" column is mostly redundant. For nearly every device, it is just the device identifier due to a change that was instated ages ago. Thus, I would like to remove this column from all the tables. There is one minor problem though: the first generation iPad. The "Variant" column is actually used for this, but isn't redundant because the Wi-Fi and 3G variants share the same identifier. This issue does need to be addressed before we proceed with removing the columns. --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|talk]]) 20:21, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Models

2016-01-08T15:42:30Z

Wites OM Tesla: /* iPhone BOARD REVISION */

== Removed models ==
Dialexio, you removed some models. I created the list based on infos in this wiki. I didn't know though if every storage size exists with every color and every combination with both bootroms. Based on what info did you remove the non-existent rows? It seems you removed too many of them. I just saw that my old 3GS, black, new bootrom, 32GB, is a MC133 and is no more listed. Can you please re-check those you removed? Thanks. -- [[User:Http|http]] 07:43, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
:Whoops. For some reason, I was thinking that only 8 GB units had the new bootrom at that time. :s --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] 15:37, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

== Another model number ==
I think on this page we should also add the other model numbers (like the A1332 for the iPhone 4 black) somehow. How are they related? -- [[User:Http|http]] 15:24, 13 October 2011 (MDT)
:They are added in the meantime. --[[User:Http|http]] 00:28, 31 October 2012 (MDT)

== iPhone 4S ==
According to the [http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/iPhone-4S-Teardown/6610/1 iFitIt Teardown], the model number for the [[n92ap|iPhone 4S]] is A1387... --[[User:5urd|5urd]] 07:23, 14 October 2011 (MDT)
:For which 4S model? Color, memory? Or for all the same? Do you know more? -- [[User:Http|http]] 10:59, 14 October 2011 (MDT)
::Well, the teardown is black... I am guessing sinse they dont use the devices, it would be 8GB... But A1387 sounds like the hardware model, not the device model that starts with <code>MB</code> or <code>MC</code>... So all iPhone 4S's may be A1387... --[[User:5urd|5urd]] 15:37, 14 October 2011 (MDT)
:I also have an A1387. I would like to add this number in the list as well. But currently I have no infos. We don't know if this model is different for different memory, color, bootrom, production facility, or for what. Please post here, if you know more or if you have other numbers. This number is engraved on the phone itself (backside). There's also a code "EMC 2430". Let us know if you have a different number there. -- [[User:Http|http]] 05:05, 23 December 2011 (MST)
::My A1387 is also EMC 2430. It's a black AT&T 16GB [[User:Beej|beej]] 09:24, 23 December 2011 (MST)

== iPad 3 and Apple TV 3G ==

MD328LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 16GB WHITE – USA
MC705LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 16GB BLACK - USA
MD329LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 32GB WHITE – USA
MD706LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 32GB BLACK - USA
MD330LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 64GB WHITE - USA
MC707LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 64GB BLACK - USA

MD366LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 4G 16GB BLACK - USA
MD369LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 16GB WHITE - USA
MD367LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 4G 32GB BLACK - USA
MD370LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 32GB WHITE - USA
MD368LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 4G 64GB BLACK - USA
MD371LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 64GB WHITE - USA

MD098LL/A – APPLE DIGITAL AV ADAPTER
MD199LL/A – APPLE TV – USA
--[[User:5urd|5urd]] 19:43, 9 March 2012 (MST)

:And because Verizon Wireless must get their own special version, causing everybody more headaches…
MC733LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 16GB BLACK - USA
MD363LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 16GB WHITE - USA
MC744LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 32GB BLACK - USA
MD364LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 32GB WHITE - USA
MC756LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 64GB BLACK - USA
MD365LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 64GB WHITE - USA
:--[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] 20:04, 9 March 2012 (MST)
::So would I be right in assuming that the ones on mine are AT&T --[[User:5urd|5urd]] 23:05, 9 March 2012 (MST)
:::Yeah. --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] 00:41, 10 March 2012 (MST)

== Cutting up the table ==
In direct contrast to what I'd like to do on the Firmware page, I would like to divide this table by device type. I feel that it'd be a bit easier to maintain (and perhaps find information) if we had different tables for Apple TVs, iPads, iPad minis(?), iPhones, and iPod touches. --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] 22:22, 30 October 2012 (MDT)
:I would like to keep the basic structure of the table as it is. But yes, it may be separated by device type, as this is the left-most column and therefore wouldn't change anything. --[[User:Http|http]] 00:24, 31 October 2012 (MDT)
:Done --[[User:5urd|5urd]] 16:32, 31 October 2012 (MDT)

== [[iPhone 5]] China ==
Please see [http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3939 Apple KB HT3939]. There is no GSM model it is just CDMA. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 08:37, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
:Perhaps this topic requires more information, particularly from somebody with an A1442 iPhone. At this time, there are two carriers in China that offer the iPhone: China Telecom and China Unicom.[http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1937] [http://store.apple.com/cn/browse/home/shop_iphone/family/iphone5 Apple's online store] suggests they have two models: the China Unicom model is GSM-unlocked, while the China Telecom model (the one with the new ME model numbers) is locked. Since China Telecom's model is locked and they have a CDMA network, it may be possible that the A1442 model is a CDMA-only variant. However, http://www.apple.com.cn/iphone/specs.html does mention that all models have support for various HSPA technologies, and it doesn't seem plausible for Apple to go out of their way to remove GSM functionality from a design that can already handle GSM and CDMA connections. Plus, it's not entirely clear if it can actually be unlocked in the future (a la Verizon and the iPhone 4S). --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|talk]]) 09:57, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
:: That is strange as the two website contradict each other. I think we should wait for someone with one too. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 11:48, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
:Let me provide some insight on the internals here. Internally, the baseband chip is able to support ''both'' GSM and CDMA. It's up to the baseband firmware to choose what to use. There are two [[IPSW File Format|IPSW]]s for each release as one contains the baseband firmware to support the GSM LTE bands in the United States. The other (Global) contains the baseband firmware to support the GSM bands outside of the United States and the CDMA bands across the world (where the [[iPhone 5]] has been release). This means that all devices support GSM. So, even if the device was released in China where it is only CDMA (and the device was modified to only work on China CDMA), the Global firmware still contains GSM support. That's just my though here. The only exception here would be if the China [[iPhone 5]] didn't work with ''both'' [[n41ap|iPhone5,1]] and [[n42ap|iPhone5,2]] firmwares, but it does (iPhone5,2). --[[User:5urd|5urd]] ([[User talk:5urd|talk]]) 18:44, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

=== iPhone 5s China ===
There are also currently at least two 5s versions in China (http://store.apple.com/cn/buy-iphone/iphone5s)
* WCDMA/GSM iPhone A1528 (for China Unicom ??)
* iPhone A1533 (for China Telecom ??)

Just as reference I have a A1457 (got it in Germany), but it will not connect to the new 4G LTE in China Mobile network (even so I have a LTE sim card). According to China Mobile the A1530 (Hongkong version) can be used possibly in LTE (China Mobile) mode.--[[User:M2m|M2m]] ([[User talk:M2m|talk]]) 08:10, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

http://www.apple.com/iphone/LTE/ as reference. --[[User:M2m|M2m]] ([[User talk:M2m|talk]]) 08:17, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

== Finding new devices. ==

I was wondering how do you find the new device numbers like iPhone5,2? I know there is an info.plist but I'm not sure where it is located. Does this one update itself or what? --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 18:31, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

== Connector ==

So how do we add the iAccy1,2, A1438, with the [[S5L8747]] everywhere? It's not running [[iOS]], but still belongs into this wiki I think. --[[User:Http|http]] ([[User talk:Http|talk]]) 00:58, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
:I think that setting up the adapter's page similarly to the baseband pages (at [[iAccy1,2]]? I don't think it belongs on the SoC's page) would work best. The page can have a blurb about the accessory, a list of known firmware versions, and then the OTA updates. --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|talk]]) 01:41, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

== Bootrom versions. ==

How do w check the bootrom version of A5+? --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 23:57, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
:The same way as always: DFU Mode. The S5L8942 (at least the one found in the [[j33ap|Apple TV 3G]]) doesn't report a bootrom version, however. --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|talk]]) 00:09, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
:: System Profiler on Mac does not show it for iPod touch 5. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 00:15, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

== iPhone3,2 ==

Do we actually know that these are model numbers for the iPhone3,2, or is this just blind speculation like what happened with identifying the [[S5L8947]]? --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|talk]]) 22:24, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
:From store.apple.com. They are legit. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 22:53, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
::They could still be iPhone3,1 models though… The iPad2,4 case was about this simple, but Apple likes using a lot of various model numbers for each iPhone (much more than an iPad, anyways). Maybe I'm being too paranoid about this though. (Something to note is that some of the listed model numbers overlap with the iPhone3,1.) --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|talk]]) 04:12, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
:::Deleted them. I just left the ME as they are different. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 07:49, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

== iPhone BOARD REVISION ==
: oh? what exactly changed between the two models? --[[User:Haifisch|Haifisch]] ([[User talk:Haifisch|talk]]) 20:31, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
::The differences are between Network and Wi-Fi parts maybe something else i not know. [[User:Wites Om Tesla|Wites OM Tesla]] 22:21, 14 September 2014 (UTC+3)
:::I'm very sorry but i have to remove this information i don't want it to be here it must remain private[[User:Wites OM Tesla|iTesla]] ([[User talk:Wites OM Tesla|talk]]) 17:41, 8 January 2016 (UTC+2)

== What are the real names for old iPhone versions? ==
Does someone know what are the real names of old iPhones? I'm developing hardware step-by-step solutions and I write in each, for example, "iPhone 2G No Backlight Solution". Is this the real name or is is "iPhone 1" or even just "iPhone"? Same thing for the iPhone 3G because, as we all know, it's the second generation, not the third. Then the third generation, we call "iPhone 3GS". I'm very confused about what to call the old models. Maybe we should call them these instead:
iPhone 1
iPhone 2
iPhone 3
iPhone 4
iPhone 4S
...
--[[User:Wites OM Tesla|iTesla]] ([[User talk:Wites OM Tesla|talk]]) 20:41, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
:The first iPhone was just called "iPhone". Then the second generation came around, and Apple dubbed it the "iPhone 3G" because it added support for 3G networks (compared to the original supporting just EDGE (2.5G)). It's unclear when the original was dubbed the "iPhone 2G" (after the 3G or 3GS), but the "2G" moniker was added because: (1) it came before the 3G, and (2) EDGE, although 2.5G, is sometimes called 2G because it came before 3G. After the "iPhone 3G" was the "iPhone 3GS" ("S" standing for "speed" due to a faster processor and more RAM). After that was the "iPhone 4", then the "iPhone 4S" ("S" not for processor "speed" this time, but probably because a newer processor is inherently faster at the same clock rate). After that was the "iPhone 5", then the (note the lowercase letters) "iPhone 5s" (again, "s" for "speed") and "iPhone 5c" ("c" for "color"). After those, we got the "iPhone 6" and the "iPhone 6 Plus" ("plus" because it's bigger). Hope that clears things up for you. --[[User:5urd|5urd]] ([[User talk:5urd|talk]]) 20:56, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
::Thank you for your input. I think I will leave it as is. --[[User:Wites OM Tesla|iTesla]] ([[User talk:Wites OM Tesla|talk]]) 21:20, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

== "Variant" column ==

The "Variant" column is mostly redundant. For nearly every device, it is just the device identifier due to a change that was instated ages ago. Thus, I would like to remove this column from all the tables. There is one minor problem though: the first generation iPad. The "Variant" column is actually used for this, but isn't redundant because the Wi-Fi and 3G variants share the same identifier. This issue does need to be addressed before we proceed with removing the columns. --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|talk]]) 20:21, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Models

2015-12-25T12:36:16Z

Wites OM Tesla: /* iPhone BRD (board) Versions! */

== Removed models ==
Dialexio, you removed some models. I created the list based on infos in this wiki. I didn't know though if every storage size exists with every color and every combination with both bootroms. Based on what info did you remove the non-existent rows? It seems you removed too many of them. I just saw that my old 3GS, black, new bootrom, 32GB, is a MC133 and is no more listed. Can you please re-check those you removed? Thanks. -- [[User:Http|http]] 07:43, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
:Whoops. For some reason, I was thinking that only 8 GB units had the new bootrom at that time. :s --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] 15:37, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

== Another model number ==
I think on this page we should also add the other model numbers (like the A1332 for the iPhone 4 black) somehow. How are they related? -- [[User:Http|http]] 15:24, 13 October 2011 (MDT)
:They are added in the meantime. --[[User:Http|http]] 00:28, 31 October 2012 (MDT)

== iPhone 4S ==
According to the [http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/iPhone-4S-Teardown/6610/1 iFitIt Teardown], the model number for the [[n92ap|iPhone 4S]] is A1387... --[[User:5urd|5urd]] 07:23, 14 October 2011 (MDT)
:For which 4S model? Color, memory? Or for all the same? Do you know more? -- [[User:Http|http]] 10:59, 14 October 2011 (MDT)
::Well, the teardown is black... I am guessing sinse they dont use the devices, it would be 8GB... But A1387 sounds like the hardware model, not the device model that starts with <code>MB</code> or <code>MC</code>... So all iPhone 4S's may be A1387... --[[User:5urd|5urd]] 15:37, 14 October 2011 (MDT)
:I also have an A1387. I would like to add this number in the list as well. But currently I have no infos. We don't know if this model is different for different memory, color, bootrom, production facility, or for what. Please post here, if you know more or if you have other numbers. This number is engraved on the phone itself (backside). There's also a code "EMC 2430". Let us know if you have a different number there. -- [[User:Http|http]] 05:05, 23 December 2011 (MST)
::My A1387 is also EMC 2430. It's a black AT&T 16GB [[User:Beej|beej]] 09:24, 23 December 2011 (MST)

== iPad 3 and Apple TV 3G ==

MD328LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 16GB WHITE – USA
MC705LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 16GB BLACK - USA
MD329LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 32GB WHITE – USA
MD706LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 32GB BLACK - USA
MD330LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 64GB WHITE - USA
MC707LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 64GB BLACK - USA

MD366LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 4G 16GB BLACK - USA
MD369LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 16GB WHITE - USA
MD367LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 4G 32GB BLACK - USA
MD370LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 32GB WHITE - USA
MD368LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 4G 64GB BLACK - USA
MD371LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 64GB WHITE - USA

MD098LL/A – APPLE DIGITAL AV ADAPTER
MD199LL/A – APPLE TV – USA
--[[User:5urd|5urd]] 19:43, 9 March 2012 (MST)

:And because Verizon Wireless must get their own special version, causing everybody more headaches…
MC733LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 16GB BLACK - USA
MD363LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 16GB WHITE - USA
MC744LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 32GB BLACK - USA
MD364LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 32GB WHITE - USA
MC756LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 64GB BLACK - USA
MD365LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 64GB WHITE - USA
:--[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] 20:04, 9 March 2012 (MST)
::So would I be right in assuming that the ones on mine are AT&T --[[User:5urd|5urd]] 23:05, 9 March 2012 (MST)
:::Yeah. --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] 00:41, 10 March 2012 (MST)

== Cutting up the table ==
In direct contrast to what I'd like to do on the Firmware page, I would like to divide this table by device type. I feel that it'd be a bit easier to maintain (and perhaps find information) if we had different tables for Apple TVs, iPads, iPad minis(?), iPhones, and iPod touches. --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] 22:22, 30 October 2012 (MDT)
:I would like to keep the basic structure of the table as it is. But yes, it may be separated by device type, as this is the left-most column and therefore wouldn't change anything. --[[User:Http|http]] 00:24, 31 October 2012 (MDT)
:Done --[[User:5urd|5urd]] 16:32, 31 October 2012 (MDT)

== [[iPhone 5]] China ==
Please see [http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3939 Apple KB HT3939]. There is no GSM model it is just CDMA. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 08:37, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
:Perhaps this topic requires more information, particularly from somebody with an A1442 iPhone. At this time, there are two carriers in China that offer the iPhone: China Telecom and China Unicom.[http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1937] [http://store.apple.com/cn/browse/home/shop_iphone/family/iphone5 Apple's online store] suggests they have two models: the China Unicom model is GSM-unlocked, while the China Telecom model (the one with the new ME model numbers) is locked. Since China Telecom's model is locked and they have a CDMA network, it may be possible that the A1442 model is a CDMA-only variant. However, http://www.apple.com.cn/iphone/specs.html does mention that all models have support for various HSPA technologies, and it doesn't seem plausible for Apple to go out of their way to remove GSM functionality from a design that can already handle GSM and CDMA connections. Plus, it's not entirely clear if it can actually be unlocked in the future (a la Verizon and the iPhone 4S). --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|talk]]) 09:57, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
:: That is strange as the two website contradict each other. I think we should wait for someone with one too. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 11:48, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
:Let me provide some insight on the internals here. Internally, the baseband chip is able to support ''both'' GSM and CDMA. It's up to the baseband firmware to choose what to use. There are two [[IPSW File Format|IPSW]]s for each release as one contains the baseband firmware to support the GSM LTE bands in the United States. The other (Global) contains the baseband firmware to support the GSM bands outside of the United States and the CDMA bands across the world (where the [[iPhone 5]] has been release). This means that all devices support GSM. So, even if the device was released in China where it is only CDMA (and the device was modified to only work on China CDMA), the Global firmware still contains GSM support. That's just my though here. The only exception here would be if the China [[iPhone 5]] didn't work with ''both'' [[n41ap|iPhone5,1]] and [[n42ap|iPhone5,2]] firmwares, but it does (iPhone5,2). --[[User:5urd|5urd]] ([[User talk:5urd|talk]]) 18:44, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

=== iPhone 5s China ===
There are also currently at least two 5s versions in China (http://store.apple.com/cn/buy-iphone/iphone5s)
* WCDMA/GSM iPhone A1528 (for China Unicom ??)
* iPhone A1533 (for China Telecom ??)

Just as reference I have a A1457 (got it in Germany), but it will not connect to the new 4G LTE in China Mobile network (even so I have a LTE sim card). According to China Mobile the A1530 (Hongkong version) can be used possibly in LTE (China Mobile) mode.--[[User:M2m|M2m]] ([[User talk:M2m|talk]]) 08:10, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

http://www.apple.com/iphone/LTE/ as reference. --[[User:M2m|M2m]] ([[User talk:M2m|talk]]) 08:17, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

== Finding new devices. ==

I was wondering how do you find the new device numbers like iPhone5,2? I know there is an info.plist but I'm not sure where it is located. Does this one update itself or what? --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 18:31, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

== Connector ==

So how do we add the iAccy1,2, A1438, with the [[S5L8747]] everywhere? It's not running [[iOS]], but still belongs into this wiki I think. --[[User:Http|http]] ([[User talk:Http|talk]]) 00:58, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
:I think that setting up the adapter's page similarly to the baseband pages (at [[iAccy1,2]]? I don't think it belongs on the SoC's page) would work best. The page can have a blurb about the accessory, a list of known firmware versions, and then the OTA updates. --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|talk]]) 01:41, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

== Bootrom versions. ==

How do w check the bootrom version of A5+? --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 23:57, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
:The same way as always: DFU Mode. The S5L8942 (at least the one found in the [[j33ap|Apple TV 3G]]) doesn't report a bootrom version, however. --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|talk]]) 00:09, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
:: System Profiler on Mac does not show it for iPod touch 5. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 00:15, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

== iPhone3,2 ==

Do we actually know that these are model numbers for the iPhone3,2, or is this just blind speculation like what happened with identifying the [[S5L8947]]? --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|talk]]) 22:24, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
:From store.apple.com. They are legit. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 22:53, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
::They could still be iPhone3,1 models though… The iPad2,4 case was about this simple, but Apple likes using a lot of various model numbers for each iPhone (much more than an iPad, anyways). Maybe I'm being too paranoid about this though. (Something to note is that some of the listed model numbers overlap with the iPhone3,1.) --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|talk]]) 04:12, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
:::Deleted them. I just left the ME as they are different. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 07:49, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

== iPhone BOARD REVISION ==

'''iPhone 6'''

As a hardware technician i found there are different version of BRD (board) layout of component placement.
1st:BRD 820-3486-09
2nd:BRD 820-3486-12
3rd:BRD 820-3486-A
'''iPhone 6 Plus'''
1st:BRD 820-3675-05
2nd:BRD 820-3675-08
3rd:BRD 820-3675-A
4th:BRD 920-00203-01
'''iPhone 5S'''
1st:BRD 820-3382-05 EVT1 MAIN BUILD
2nd:BRD 820-3382-07 PROTO2 DEV1
3rd:BRD 820-3292-08 E1C MAIN BUILD
4rd:BRD 820-3382-A EU region,DVT/PVT MESA BUILD
5th:BRD 820-3292-A US region,DVT/PVT MESA BUILD
'''iPhone 5C'''
1st:BRD 820-3581-05
2nd:BRD 820-3581-A EU region
3rd:BRD 820-3928-A US region
'''iPhone 5'''
1st:BRD 820-3141-07
2nd:BRD 820-3141-B
: oh? what exactly changed between the two models? --[[User:Haifisch|Haifisch]] ([[User talk:Haifisch|talk]]) 20:31, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
::The differences are between Network and Wi-Fi parts maybe something else i not know. [[User:Wites Om Tesla|Wites OM Tesla]] 22:21, 14 September 2014 (UTC+3)
:::Where can i make a page or topic? So i can post board versions for iPod,iPhone,iPad because my intention was not for discussion of them here,i just want people to know that board versions are important. [[User:Wites OM Tesla|iTesla]] ([[User talk:Wites OM Tesla|talk]]) 23:42, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

== What are the real names for old iPhone versions? ==
Does someone know what are the real names of old iPhones? I'm developing hardware step-by-step solutions and I write in each, for example, "iPhone 2G No Backlight Solution". Is this the real name or is is "iPhone 1" or even just "iPhone"? Same thing for the iPhone 3G because, as we all know, it's the second generation, not the third. Then the third generation, we call "iPhone 3GS". I'm very confused about what to call the old models. Maybe we should call them these instead:
iPhone 1
iPhone 2
iPhone 3
iPhone 4
iPhone 4S
...
--[[User:Wites OM Tesla|iTesla]] ([[User talk:Wites OM Tesla|talk]]) 20:41, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
:The first iPhone was just called "iPhone". Then the second generation came around, and Apple dubbed it the "iPhone 3G" because it added support for 3G networks (compared to the original supporting just EDGE (2.5G)). It's unclear when the original was dubbed the "iPhone 2G" (after the 3G or 3GS), but the "2G" moniker was added because: (1) it came before the 3G, and (2) EDGE, although 2.5G, is sometimes called 2G because it came before 3G. After the "iPhone 3G" was the "iPhone 3GS" ("S" standing for "speed" due to a faster processor and more RAM). After that was the "iPhone 4", then the "iPhone 4S" ("S" not for processor "speed" this time, but probably because a newer processor is inherently faster at the same clock rate). After that was the "iPhone 5", then the (note the lowercase letters) "iPhone 5s" (again, "s" for "speed") and "iPhone 5c" ("c" for "color"). After those, we got the "iPhone 6" and the "iPhone 6 Plus" ("plus" because it's bigger). Hope that clears things up for you. --[[User:5urd|5urd]] ([[User talk:5urd|talk]]) 20:56, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
::Thank you for your input. I think I will leave it as is. --[[User:Wites OM Tesla|iTesla]] ([[User talk:Wites OM Tesla|talk]]) 21:20, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

== "Variant" column ==

The "Variant" column is mostly redundant. For nearly every device, it is just the device identifier due to a change that was instated ages ago. Thus, I would like to remove this column from all the tables. There is one minor problem though: the first generation iPad. The "Variant" column is actually used for this, but isn't redundant because the Wi-Fi and 3G variants share the same identifier. This issue does need to be addressed before we proceed with removing the columns. --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|talk]]) 20:21, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Models

2015-12-25T12:33:44Z

Wites OM Tesla: /* iPhone BRD (board) Versions! */

== Removed models ==
Dialexio, you removed some models. I created the list based on infos in this wiki. I didn't know though if every storage size exists with every color and every combination with both bootroms. Based on what info did you remove the non-existent rows? It seems you removed too many of them. I just saw that my old 3GS, black, new bootrom, 32GB, is a MC133 and is no more listed. Can you please re-check those you removed? Thanks. -- [[User:Http|http]] 07:43, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
:Whoops. For some reason, I was thinking that only 8 GB units had the new bootrom at that time. :s --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] 15:37, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

== Another model number ==
I think on this page we should also add the other model numbers (like the A1332 for the iPhone 4 black) somehow. How are they related? -- [[User:Http|http]] 15:24, 13 October 2011 (MDT)
:They are added in the meantime. --[[User:Http|http]] 00:28, 31 October 2012 (MDT)

== iPhone 4S ==
According to the [http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/iPhone-4S-Teardown/6610/1 iFitIt Teardown], the model number for the [[n92ap|iPhone 4S]] is A1387... --[[User:5urd|5urd]] 07:23, 14 October 2011 (MDT)
:For which 4S model? Color, memory? Or for all the same? Do you know more? -- [[User:Http|http]] 10:59, 14 October 2011 (MDT)
::Well, the teardown is black... I am guessing sinse they dont use the devices, it would be 8GB... But A1387 sounds like the hardware model, not the device model that starts with <code>MB</code> or <code>MC</code>... So all iPhone 4S's may be A1387... --[[User:5urd|5urd]] 15:37, 14 October 2011 (MDT)
:I also have an A1387. I would like to add this number in the list as well. But currently I have no infos. We don't know if this model is different for different memory, color, bootrom, production facility, or for what. Please post here, if you know more or if you have other numbers. This number is engraved on the phone itself (backside). There's also a code "EMC 2430". Let us know if you have a different number there. -- [[User:Http|http]] 05:05, 23 December 2011 (MST)
::My A1387 is also EMC 2430. It's a black AT&T 16GB [[User:Beej|beej]] 09:24, 23 December 2011 (MST)

== iPad 3 and Apple TV 3G ==

MD328LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 16GB WHITE – USA
MC705LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 16GB BLACK - USA
MD329LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 32GB WHITE – USA
MD706LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 32GB BLACK - USA
MD330LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 64GB WHITE - USA
MC707LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 64GB BLACK - USA

MD366LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 4G 16GB BLACK - USA
MD369LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 16GB WHITE - USA
MD367LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 4G 32GB BLACK - USA
MD370LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 32GB WHITE - USA
MD368LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 4G 64GB BLACK - USA
MD371LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 64GB WHITE - USA

MD098LL/A – APPLE DIGITAL AV ADAPTER
MD199LL/A – APPLE TV – USA
--[[User:5urd|5urd]] 19:43, 9 March 2012 (MST)

:And because Verizon Wireless must get their own special version, causing everybody more headaches…
MC733LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 16GB BLACK - USA
MD363LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 16GB WHITE - USA
MC744LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 32GB BLACK - USA
MD364LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 32GB WHITE - USA
MC756LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 64GB BLACK - USA
MD365LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 64GB WHITE - USA
:--[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] 20:04, 9 March 2012 (MST)
::So would I be right in assuming that the ones on mine are AT&T --[[User:5urd|5urd]] 23:05, 9 March 2012 (MST)
:::Yeah. --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] 00:41, 10 March 2012 (MST)

== Cutting up the table ==
In direct contrast to what I'd like to do on the Firmware page, I would like to divide this table by device type. I feel that it'd be a bit easier to maintain (and perhaps find information) if we had different tables for Apple TVs, iPads, iPad minis(?), iPhones, and iPod touches. --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] 22:22, 30 October 2012 (MDT)
:I would like to keep the basic structure of the table as it is. But yes, it may be separated by device type, as this is the left-most column and therefore wouldn't change anything. --[[User:Http|http]] 00:24, 31 October 2012 (MDT)
:Done --[[User:5urd|5urd]] 16:32, 31 October 2012 (MDT)

== [[iPhone 5]] China ==
Please see [http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3939 Apple KB HT3939]. There is no GSM model it is just CDMA. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 08:37, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
:Perhaps this topic requires more information, particularly from somebody with an A1442 iPhone. At this time, there are two carriers in China that offer the iPhone: China Telecom and China Unicom.[http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1937] [http://store.apple.com/cn/browse/home/shop_iphone/family/iphone5 Apple's online store] suggests they have two models: the China Unicom model is GSM-unlocked, while the China Telecom model (the one with the new ME model numbers) is locked. Since China Telecom's model is locked and they have a CDMA network, it may be possible that the A1442 model is a CDMA-only variant. However, http://www.apple.com.cn/iphone/specs.html does mention that all models have support for various HSPA technologies, and it doesn't seem plausible for Apple to go out of their way to remove GSM functionality from a design that can already handle GSM and CDMA connections. Plus, it's not entirely clear if it can actually be unlocked in the future (a la Verizon and the iPhone 4S). --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|talk]]) 09:57, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
:: That is strange as the two website contradict each other. I think we should wait for someone with one too. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 11:48, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
:Let me provide some insight on the internals here. Internally, the baseband chip is able to support ''both'' GSM and CDMA. It's up to the baseband firmware to choose what to use. There are two [[IPSW File Format|IPSW]]s for each release as one contains the baseband firmware to support the GSM LTE bands in the United States. The other (Global) contains the baseband firmware to support the GSM bands outside of the United States and the CDMA bands across the world (where the [[iPhone 5]] has been release). This means that all devices support GSM. So, even if the device was released in China where it is only CDMA (and the device was modified to only work on China CDMA), the Global firmware still contains GSM support. That's just my though here. The only exception here would be if the China [[iPhone 5]] didn't work with ''both'' [[n41ap|iPhone5,1]] and [[n42ap|iPhone5,2]] firmwares, but it does (iPhone5,2). --[[User:5urd|5urd]] ([[User talk:5urd|talk]]) 18:44, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

=== iPhone 5s China ===
There are also currently at least two 5s versions in China (http://store.apple.com/cn/buy-iphone/iphone5s)
* WCDMA/GSM iPhone A1528 (for China Unicom ??)
* iPhone A1533 (for China Telecom ??)

Just as reference I have a A1457 (got it in Germany), but it will not connect to the new 4G LTE in China Mobile network (even so I have a LTE sim card). According to China Mobile the A1530 (Hongkong version) can be used possibly in LTE (China Mobile) mode.--[[User:M2m|M2m]] ([[User talk:M2m|talk]]) 08:10, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

http://www.apple.com/iphone/LTE/ as reference. --[[User:M2m|M2m]] ([[User talk:M2m|talk]]) 08:17, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

== Finding new devices. ==

I was wondering how do you find the new device numbers like iPhone5,2? I know there is an info.plist but I'm not sure where it is located. Does this one update itself or what? --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 18:31, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

== Connector ==

So how do we add the iAccy1,2, A1438, with the [[S5L8747]] everywhere? It's not running [[iOS]], but still belongs into this wiki I think. --[[User:Http|http]] ([[User talk:Http|talk]]) 00:58, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
:I think that setting up the adapter's page similarly to the baseband pages (at [[iAccy1,2]]? I don't think it belongs on the SoC's page) would work best. The page can have a blurb about the accessory, a list of known firmware versions, and then the OTA updates. --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|talk]]) 01:41, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

== Bootrom versions. ==

How do w check the bootrom version of A5+? --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 23:57, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
:The same way as always: DFU Mode. The S5L8942 (at least the one found in the [[j33ap|Apple TV 3G]]) doesn't report a bootrom version, however. --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|talk]]) 00:09, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
:: System Profiler on Mac does not show it for iPod touch 5. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 00:15, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

== iPhone3,2 ==

Do we actually know that these are model numbers for the iPhone3,2, or is this just blind speculation like what happened with identifying the [[S5L8947]]? --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|talk]]) 22:24, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
:From store.apple.com. They are legit. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 22:53, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
::They could still be iPhone3,1 models though… The iPad2,4 case was about this simple, but Apple likes using a lot of various model numbers for each iPhone (much more than an iPad, anyways). Maybe I'm being too paranoid about this though. (Something to note is that some of the listed model numbers overlap with the iPhone3,1.) --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|talk]]) 04:12, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
:::Deleted them. I just left the ME as they are different. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 07:49, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

== iPhone BRD (board) Versions! ==

'''iPhone 6'''

As a hardware technician i found there are different version of BRD (board) layout of component placement.
1st:BRD 820-3486-09
2nd:BRD 820-3486-12
3rd:BRD 820-3486-A
'''iPhone 6 Plus'''
1st:BRD 820-3675-05
2nd:BRD 820-3675-08
3rd:BRD 820-3675-A
4th:BRD 920-00203-01
'''iPhone 5S'''
1st:BRD 820-3382-05 EVT1 MAIN BUILD
2nd:BRD 820-3382-07 PROTO2 DEV1
3rd:BRD 820-3292-08 E1C MAIN BUILD
4rd:BRD 820-3382-A EU region,DVT/PVT MESA BUILD
5th:BRD 820-3292-A US region,DVT/PVT MESA BUILD
'''iPhone 5C'''
1st:BRD 820-3581-05
2nd:BRD 820-3581-A EU region
3rd:BRD 820-3928-A US region
'''iPhone 5'''
1st:BRD 820-3141-07
2nd:BRD 820-3141-B
: oh? what exactly changed between the two models? --[[User:Haifisch|Haifisch]] ([[User talk:Haifisch|talk]]) 20:31, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
::The differences are between Network and Wi-Fi parts maybe something else i not know. [[User:Wites Om Tesla|Wites OM Tesla]] 22:21, 14 September 2014 (UTC+3)
:::Where can i make a page or topic? So i can post board versions for iPod,iPhone,iPad because my intention was not for discussion of them here,i just want people to know that board versions are important. [[User:Wites OM Tesla|iTesla]] ([[User talk:Wites OM Tesla|talk]]) 23:42, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

== What are the real names for old iPhone versions? ==
Does someone know what are the real names of old iPhones? I'm developing hardware step-by-step solutions and I write in each, for example, "iPhone 2G No Backlight Solution". Is this the real name or is is "iPhone 1" or even just "iPhone"? Same thing for the iPhone 3G because, as we all know, it's the second generation, not the third. Then the third generation, we call "iPhone 3GS". I'm very confused about what to call the old models. Maybe we should call them these instead:
iPhone 1
iPhone 2
iPhone 3
iPhone 4
iPhone 4S
...
--[[User:Wites OM Tesla|iTesla]] ([[User talk:Wites OM Tesla|talk]]) 20:41, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
:The first iPhone was just called "iPhone". Then the second generation came around, and Apple dubbed it the "iPhone 3G" because it added support for 3G networks (compared to the original supporting just EDGE (2.5G)). It's unclear when the original was dubbed the "iPhone 2G" (after the 3G or 3GS), but the "2G" moniker was added because: (1) it came before the 3G, and (2) EDGE, although 2.5G, is sometimes called 2G because it came before 3G. After the "iPhone 3G" was the "iPhone 3GS" ("S" standing for "speed" due to a faster processor and more RAM). After that was the "iPhone 4", then the "iPhone 4S" ("S" not for processor "speed" this time, but probably because a newer processor is inherently faster at the same clock rate). After that was the "iPhone 5", then the (note the lowercase letters) "iPhone 5s" (again, "s" for "speed") and "iPhone 5c" ("c" for "color"). After those, we got the "iPhone 6" and the "iPhone 6 Plus" ("plus" because it's bigger). Hope that clears things up for you. --[[User:5urd|5urd]] ([[User talk:5urd|talk]]) 20:56, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
::Thank you for your input. I think I will leave it as is. --[[User:Wites OM Tesla|iTesla]] ([[User talk:Wites OM Tesla|talk]]) 21:20, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

== "Variant" column ==

The "Variant" column is mostly redundant. For nearly every device, it is just the device identifier due to a change that was instated ages ago. Thus, I would like to remove this column from all the tables. There is one minor problem though: the first generation iPad. The "Variant" column is actually used for this, but isn't redundant because the Wi-Fi and 3G variants share the same identifier. This issue does need to be addressed before we proceed with removing the columns. --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|talk]]) 20:21, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Models

2015-12-25T12:30:14Z

Wites OM Tesla: /* iPhone BRD (board) Versions! */

== Removed models ==
Dialexio, you removed some models. I created the list based on infos in this wiki. I didn't know though if every storage size exists with every color and every combination with both bootroms. Based on what info did you remove the non-existent rows? It seems you removed too many of them. I just saw that my old 3GS, black, new bootrom, 32GB, is a MC133 and is no more listed. Can you please re-check those you removed? Thanks. -- [[User:Http|http]] 07:43, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
:Whoops. For some reason, I was thinking that only 8 GB units had the new bootrom at that time. :s --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] 15:37, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

== Another model number ==
I think on this page we should also add the other model numbers (like the A1332 for the iPhone 4 black) somehow. How are they related? -- [[User:Http|http]] 15:24, 13 October 2011 (MDT)
:They are added in the meantime. --[[User:Http|http]] 00:28, 31 October 2012 (MDT)

== iPhone 4S ==
According to the [http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/iPhone-4S-Teardown/6610/1 iFitIt Teardown], the model number for the [[n92ap|iPhone 4S]] is A1387... --[[User:5urd|5urd]] 07:23, 14 October 2011 (MDT)
:For which 4S model? Color, memory? Or for all the same? Do you know more? -- [[User:Http|http]] 10:59, 14 October 2011 (MDT)
::Well, the teardown is black... I am guessing sinse they dont use the devices, it would be 8GB... But A1387 sounds like the hardware model, not the device model that starts with <code>MB</code> or <code>MC</code>... So all iPhone 4S's may be A1387... --[[User:5urd|5urd]] 15:37, 14 October 2011 (MDT)
:I also have an A1387. I would like to add this number in the list as well. But currently I have no infos. We don't know if this model is different for different memory, color, bootrom, production facility, or for what. Please post here, if you know more or if you have other numbers. This number is engraved on the phone itself (backside). There's also a code "EMC 2430". Let us know if you have a different number there. -- [[User:Http|http]] 05:05, 23 December 2011 (MST)
::My A1387 is also EMC 2430. It's a black AT&T 16GB [[User:Beej|beej]] 09:24, 23 December 2011 (MST)

== iPad 3 and Apple TV 3G ==

MD328LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 16GB WHITE – USA
MC705LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 16GB BLACK - USA
MD329LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 32GB WHITE – USA
MD706LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 32GB BLACK - USA
MD330LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 64GB WHITE - USA
MC707LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 64GB BLACK - USA

MD366LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 4G 16GB BLACK - USA
MD369LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 16GB WHITE - USA
MD367LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 4G 32GB BLACK - USA
MD370LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 32GB WHITE - USA
MD368LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 4G 64GB BLACK - USA
MD371LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 64GB WHITE - USA

MD098LL/A – APPLE DIGITAL AV ADAPTER
MD199LL/A – APPLE TV – USA
--[[User:5urd|5urd]] 19:43, 9 March 2012 (MST)

:And because Verizon Wireless must get their own special version, causing everybody more headaches…
MC733LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 16GB BLACK - USA
MD363LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 16GB WHITE - USA
MC744LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 32GB BLACK - USA
MD364LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 32GB WHITE - USA
MC756LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 64GB BLACK - USA
MD365LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 64GB WHITE - USA
:--[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] 20:04, 9 March 2012 (MST)
::So would I be right in assuming that the ones on mine are AT&T --[[User:5urd|5urd]] 23:05, 9 March 2012 (MST)
:::Yeah. --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] 00:41, 10 March 2012 (MST)

== Cutting up the table ==
In direct contrast to what I'd like to do on the Firmware page, I would like to divide this table by device type. I feel that it'd be a bit easier to maintain (and perhaps find information) if we had different tables for Apple TVs, iPads, iPad minis(?), iPhones, and iPod touches. --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] 22:22, 30 October 2012 (MDT)
:I would like to keep the basic structure of the table as it is. But yes, it may be separated by device type, as this is the left-most column and therefore wouldn't change anything. --[[User:Http|http]] 00:24, 31 October 2012 (MDT)
:Done --[[User:5urd|5urd]] 16:32, 31 October 2012 (MDT)

== [[iPhone 5]] China ==
Please see [http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3939 Apple KB HT3939]. There is no GSM model it is just CDMA. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 08:37, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
:Perhaps this topic requires more information, particularly from somebody with an A1442 iPhone. At this time, there are two carriers in China that offer the iPhone: China Telecom and China Unicom.[http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1937] [http://store.apple.com/cn/browse/home/shop_iphone/family/iphone5 Apple's online store] suggests they have two models: the China Unicom model is GSM-unlocked, while the China Telecom model (the one with the new ME model numbers) is locked. Since China Telecom's model is locked and they have a CDMA network, it may be possible that the A1442 model is a CDMA-only variant. However, http://www.apple.com.cn/iphone/specs.html does mention that all models have support for various HSPA technologies, and it doesn't seem plausible for Apple to go out of their way to remove GSM functionality from a design that can already handle GSM and CDMA connections. Plus, it's not entirely clear if it can actually be unlocked in the future (a la Verizon and the iPhone 4S). --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|talk]]) 09:57, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
:: That is strange as the two website contradict each other. I think we should wait for someone with one too. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 11:48, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
:Let me provide some insight on the internals here. Internally, the baseband chip is able to support ''both'' GSM and CDMA. It's up to the baseband firmware to choose what to use. There are two [[IPSW File Format|IPSW]]s for each release as one contains the baseband firmware to support the GSM LTE bands in the United States. The other (Global) contains the baseband firmware to support the GSM bands outside of the United States and the CDMA bands across the world (where the [[iPhone 5]] has been release). This means that all devices support GSM. So, even if the device was released in China where it is only CDMA (and the device was modified to only work on China CDMA), the Global firmware still contains GSM support. That's just my though here. The only exception here would be if the China [[iPhone 5]] didn't work with ''both'' [[n41ap|iPhone5,1]] and [[n42ap|iPhone5,2]] firmwares, but it does (iPhone5,2). --[[User:5urd|5urd]] ([[User talk:5urd|talk]]) 18:44, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

=== iPhone 5s China ===
There are also currently at least two 5s versions in China (http://store.apple.com/cn/buy-iphone/iphone5s)
* WCDMA/GSM iPhone A1528 (for China Unicom ??)
* iPhone A1533 (for China Telecom ??)

Just as reference I have a A1457 (got it in Germany), but it will not connect to the new 4G LTE in China Mobile network (even so I have a LTE sim card). According to China Mobile the A1530 (Hongkong version) can be used possibly in LTE (China Mobile) mode.--[[User:M2m|M2m]] ([[User talk:M2m|talk]]) 08:10, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

http://www.apple.com/iphone/LTE/ as reference. --[[User:M2m|M2m]] ([[User talk:M2m|talk]]) 08:17, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

== Finding new devices. ==

I was wondering how do you find the new device numbers like iPhone5,2? I know there is an info.plist but I'm not sure where it is located. Does this one update itself or what? --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 18:31, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

== Connector ==

So how do we add the iAccy1,2, A1438, with the [[S5L8747]] everywhere? It's not running [[iOS]], but still belongs into this wiki I think. --[[User:Http|http]] ([[User talk:Http|talk]]) 00:58, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
:I think that setting up the adapter's page similarly to the baseband pages (at [[iAccy1,2]]? I don't think it belongs on the SoC's page) would work best. The page can have a blurb about the accessory, a list of known firmware versions, and then the OTA updates. --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|talk]]) 01:41, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

== Bootrom versions. ==

How do w check the bootrom version of A5+? --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 23:57, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
:The same way as always: DFU Mode. The S5L8942 (at least the one found in the [[j33ap|Apple TV 3G]]) doesn't report a bootrom version, however. --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|talk]]) 00:09, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
:: System Profiler on Mac does not show it for iPod touch 5. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 00:15, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

== iPhone3,2 ==

Do we actually know that these are model numbers for the iPhone3,2, or is this just blind speculation like what happened with identifying the [[S5L8947]]? --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|talk]]) 22:24, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
:From store.apple.com. They are legit. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 22:53, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
::They could still be iPhone3,1 models though… The iPad2,4 case was about this simple, but Apple likes using a lot of various model numbers for each iPhone (much more than an iPad, anyways). Maybe I'm being too paranoid about this though. (Something to note is that some of the listed model numbers overlap with the iPhone3,1.) --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|talk]]) 04:12, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
:::Deleted them. I just left the ME as they are different. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 07:49, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

== iPhone BRD (board) Versions! ==

'''iPhone 6'''

As a hardware technician i found there are different version of BRD (board) layout of component placement.
1st:BRD 820-3486-09
2nd:BRD 820-3486-12
'''iPhone 6 Plus'''
1st:BRD 820-3675-05
2nd:BRD 820-3675-08
3rd:BRD 920-00203-01
'''iPhone 5S'''
1st:BRD 820-3382-05 EVT1 MAIN BUILD
2nd:BRD 820-3382-07 PROTO2 DEV1
3rd:BRD 820-3292-08 E1C MAIN BUILT
4rd:BRD 820-3382-A EU region,DVT/PVT MESA BUILD
5th:BRD 820-3292-A US region,DVT/PVT MESA BUILD
'''iPhone 5C'''
1st:BRD 820-3581-05
2nd:BRD 820-3581-A EU region
3rd:BRD 820-3928-A US region
'''iPhone 5'''
1st:BRD 820-3141-07
2nd:BRD 820-3141-B
: oh? what exactly changed between the two models? --[[User:Haifisch|Haifisch]] ([[User talk:Haifisch|talk]]) 20:31, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
::The differences are between Network and Wi-Fi parts maybe something else i not know. [[User:Wites Om Tesla|Wites OM Tesla]] 22:21, 14 September 2014 (UTC+3)
:::Where can i make a page or topic? So i can post board versions for iPod,iPhone,iPad because my intention was not for discussion of them here,i just want people to know that board versions are important. [[User:Wites OM Tesla|iTesla]] ([[User talk:Wites OM Tesla|talk]]) 23:42, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

== What are the real names for old iPhone versions? ==
Does someone know what are the real names of old iPhones? I'm developing hardware step-by-step solutions and I write in each, for example, "iPhone 2G No Backlight Solution". Is this the real name or is is "iPhone 1" or even just "iPhone"? Same thing for the iPhone 3G because, as we all know, it's the second generation, not the third. Then the third generation, we call "iPhone 3GS". I'm very confused about what to call the old models. Maybe we should call them these instead:
iPhone 1
iPhone 2
iPhone 3
iPhone 4
iPhone 4S
...
--[[User:Wites OM Tesla|iTesla]] ([[User talk:Wites OM Tesla|talk]]) 20:41, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
:The first iPhone was just called "iPhone". Then the second generation came around, and Apple dubbed it the "iPhone 3G" because it added support for 3G networks (compared to the original supporting just EDGE (2.5G)). It's unclear when the original was dubbed the "iPhone 2G" (after the 3G or 3GS), but the "2G" moniker was added because: (1) it came before the 3G, and (2) EDGE, although 2.5G, is sometimes called 2G because it came before 3G. After the "iPhone 3G" was the "iPhone 3GS" ("S" standing for "speed" due to a faster processor and more RAM). After that was the "iPhone 4", then the "iPhone 4S" ("S" not for processor "speed" this time, but probably because a newer processor is inherently faster at the same clock rate). After that was the "iPhone 5", then the (note the lowercase letters) "iPhone 5s" (again, "s" for "speed") and "iPhone 5c" ("c" for "color"). After those, we got the "iPhone 6" and the "iPhone 6 Plus" ("plus" because it's bigger). Hope that clears things up for you. --[[User:5urd|5urd]] ([[User talk:5urd|talk]]) 20:56, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
::Thank you for your input. I think I will leave it as is. --[[User:Wites OM Tesla|iTesla]] ([[User talk:Wites OM Tesla|talk]]) 21:20, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

== "Variant" column ==

The "Variant" column is mostly redundant. For nearly every device, it is just the device identifier due to a change that was instated ages ago. Thus, I would like to remove this column from all the tables. There is one minor problem though: the first generation iPad. The "Variant" column is actually used for this, but isn't redundant because the Wi-Fi and 3G variants share the same identifier. This issue does need to be addressed before we proceed with removing the columns. --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|talk]]) 20:21, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Models

2015-02-06T23:49:58Z

Wites OM Tesla: /* iPhone BRD (board) Versions! */

== Removed models ==
Dialexio, you removed some models. I created the list based on infos in this wiki. I didn't know though if every storage size exists with every color and every combination with both bootroms. Based on what info did you remove the non-existent rows? It seems you removed too many of them. I just saw that my old 3GS, black, new bootrom, 32GB, is a MC133 and is no more listed. Can you please re-check those you removed? Thanks. -- [[User:Http|http]] 07:43, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
:Whoops. For some reason, I was thinking that only 8 GB units had the new bootrom at that time. :s --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] 15:37, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

== Another model number ==
I think on this page we should also add the other model numbers (like the A1332 for the iPhone 4 black) somehow. How are they related? -- [[User:Http|http]] 15:24, 13 October 2011 (MDT)
:They are added in the meantime. --[[User:Http|http]] 00:28, 31 October 2012 (MDT)

== iPhone 4S ==
According to the [http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/iPhone-4S-Teardown/6610/1 iFitIt Teardown], the model number for the [[n92ap|iPhone 4S]] is A1387... --[[User:5urd|5urd]] 07:23, 14 October 2011 (MDT)
:For which 4S model? Color, memory? Or for all the same? Do you know more? -- [[User:Http|http]] 10:59, 14 October 2011 (MDT)
::Well, the teardown is black... I am guessing sinse they dont use the devices, it would be 8GB... But A1387 sounds like the hardware model, not the device model that starts with <code>MB</code> or <code>MC</code>... So all iPhone 4S's may be A1387... --[[User:5urd|5urd]] 15:37, 14 October 2011 (MDT)
:I also have an A1387. I would like to add this number in the list as well. But currently I have no infos. We don't know if this model is different for different memory, color, bootrom, production facility, or for what. Please post here, if you know more or if you have other numbers. This number is engraved on the phone itself (backside). There's also a code "EMC 2430". Let us know if you have a different number there. -- [[User:Http|http]] 05:05, 23 December 2011 (MST)
::My A1387 is also EMC 2430. It's a black AT&T 16GB [[User:Beej|beej]] 09:24, 23 December 2011 (MST)

== iPad 3 and Apple TV 3G ==

MD328LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 16GB WHITE – USA
MC705LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 16GB BLACK - USA
MD329LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 32GB WHITE – USA
MD706LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 32GB BLACK - USA
MD330LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 64GB WHITE - USA
MC707LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 64GB BLACK - USA

MD366LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 4G 16GB BLACK - USA
MD369LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 16GB WHITE - USA
MD367LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 4G 32GB BLACK - USA
MD370LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 32GB WHITE - USA
MD368LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 4G 64GB BLACK - USA
MD371LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 64GB WHITE - USA

MD098LL/A – APPLE DIGITAL AV ADAPTER
MD199LL/A – APPLE TV – USA
--[[User:5urd|5urd]] 19:43, 9 March 2012 (MST)

:And because Verizon Wireless must get their own special version, causing everybody more headaches…
MC733LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 16GB BLACK - USA
MD363LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 16GB WHITE - USA
MC744LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 32GB BLACK - USA
MD364LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 32GB WHITE - USA
MC756LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 64GB BLACK - USA
MD365LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 64GB WHITE - USA
:--[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] 20:04, 9 March 2012 (MST)
::So would I be right in assuming that the ones on mine are AT&T --[[User:5urd|5urd]] 23:05, 9 March 2012 (MST)
:::Yeah. --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] 00:41, 10 March 2012 (MST)

== Cutting up the table ==
In direct contrast to what I'd like to do on the Firmware page, I would like to divide this table by device type. I feel that it'd be a bit easier to maintain (and perhaps find information) if we had different tables for Apple TVs, iPads, iPad minis(?), iPhones, and iPod touches. --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] 22:22, 30 October 2012 (MDT)
:I would like to keep the basic structure of the table as it is. But yes, it may be separated by device type, as this is the left-most column and therefore wouldn't change anything. --[[User:Http|http]] 00:24, 31 October 2012 (MDT)
:Done --[[User:5urd|5urd]] 16:32, 31 October 2012 (MDT)

== [[iPhone 5]] China ==
Please see [http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3939 Apple KB HT3939]. There is no GSM model it is just CDMA. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 08:37, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
:Perhaps this topic requires more information, particularly from somebody with an A1442 iPhone. At this time, there are two carriers in China that offer the iPhone: China Telecom and China Unicom.[http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1937] [http://store.apple.com/cn/browse/home/shop_iphone/family/iphone5 Apple's online store] suggests they have two models: the China Unicom model is GSM-unlocked, while the China Telecom model (the one with the new ME model numbers) is locked. Since China Telecom's model is locked and they have a CDMA network, it may be possible that the A1442 model is a CDMA-only variant. However, http://www.apple.com.cn/iphone/specs.html does mention that all models have support for various HSPA technologies, and it doesn't seem plausible for Apple to go out of their way to remove GSM functionality from a design that can already handle GSM and CDMA connections. Plus, it's not entirely clear if it can actually be unlocked in the future (a la Verizon and the iPhone 4S). --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|talk]]) 09:57, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
:: That is strange as the two website contradict each other. I think we should wait for someone with one too. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 11:48, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
:Let me provide some insight on the internals here. Internally, the baseband chip is able to support ''both'' GSM and CDMA. It's up to the baseband firmware to choose what to use. There are two [[IPSW File Format|IPSW]]s for each release as one contains the baseband firmware to support the GSM LTE bands in the United States. The other (Global) contains the baseband firmware to support the GSM bands outside of the United States and the CDMA bands across the world (where the [[iPhone 5]] has been release). This means that all devices support GSM. So, even if the device was released in China where it is only CDMA (and the device was modified to only work on China CDMA), the Global firmware still contains GSM support. That's just my though here. The only exception here would be if the China [[iPhone 5]] didn't work with ''both'' [[n41ap|iPhone5,1]] and [[n42ap|iPhone5,2]] firmwares, but it does (iPhone5,2). --[[User:5urd|5urd]] ([[User talk:5urd|talk]]) 18:44, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

=== iPhone 5s China ===
There are also currently at least two 5s versions in China (http://store.apple.com/cn/buy-iphone/iphone5s)
* WCDMA/GSM iPhone A1528 (for China Unicom ??)
* iPhone A1533 (for China Telecom ??)

Just as reference I have a A1457 (got it in Germany), but it will not connect to the new 4G LTE in China Mobile network (even so I have a LTE sim card). According to China Mobile the A1530 (Hongkong version) can be used possibly in LTE (China Mobile) mode.--[[User:M2m|M2m]] ([[User talk:M2m|talk]]) 08:10, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

http://www.apple.com/iphone/LTE/ as reference. --[[User:M2m|M2m]] ([[User talk:M2m|talk]]) 08:17, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

== Finding new devices. ==

I was wondering how do you find the new device numbers like iPhone5,2? I know there is an info.plist but I'm not sure where it is located. Does this one update itself or what? --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 18:31, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

== Connector ==

So how do we add the iAccy1,2, A1438, with the [[S5L8747]] everywhere? It's not running [[iOS]], but still belongs into this wiki I think. --[[User:Http|http]] ([[User talk:Http|talk]]) 00:58, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
:I think that setting up the adapter's page similarly to the baseband pages (at [[iAccy1,2]]? I don't think it belongs on the SoC's page) would work best. The page can have a blurb about the accessory, a list of known firmware versions, and then the OTA updates. --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|talk]]) 01:41, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

== Bootrom versions. ==

How do w check the bootrom version of A5+? --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 23:57, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
:The same way as always: DFU Mode. The S5L8942 (at least the one found in the [[j33ap|Apple TV 3G]]) doesn't report a bootrom version, however. --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|talk]]) 00:09, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
:: System Profiler on Mac does not show it for iPod touch 5. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 00:15, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

== iPhone3,2 ==

Do we actually know that these are model numbers for the iPhone3,2, or is this just blind speculation like what happened with identifying the [[S5L8947]]? --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|talk]]) 22:24, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
:From store.apple.com. They are legit. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 22:53, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
::They could still be iPhone3,1 models though… The iPad2,4 case was about this simple, but Apple likes using a lot of various model numbers for each iPhone (much more than an iPad, anyways). Maybe I'm being too paranoid about this though. (Something to note is that some of the listed model numbers overlap with the iPhone3,1.) --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|talk]]) 04:12, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
:::Deleted them. I just left the ME as they are different. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 07:49, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

== iPhone BRD (board) Versions! ==

'''iPhone 6'''

As a hardware technician i found there are different version of BRD (board) layout of component placement.
1st:BRD 820-3486-09
2nd:BRD 820-3486-12
'''iPhone 6 Plus'''
1st:BRD 820-3675-05
2nd:BRD 820-3675-08
3rd:BRD 920-00203-01
'''iPhone 5S'''
1st:BRD 820-3382-05
2nd:BRD 820-3382-07
3rd:BRD 820-3382-A EU region,Bertone MLB Placement.
4th:BRD 820-3292-A US region,Zagato MLB Placement.
'''iPhone 5C'''
1st:BRD 820-3581-05
2nd:BRD 820-3581-A EU region
3rd:BRD 820-3928-A US region
'''iPhone 5'''
1st:BRD 820-3141-07
2nd:BRD 820-3141-B
: oh? what exactly changed between the two models? --[[User:Haifisch|Haifisch]] ([[User talk:Haifisch|talk]]) 20:31, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
::The differences are between Network and Wi-Fi parts maybe something else i not know. [[User:Wites Om Tesla|Wites OM Tesla]] 22:21, 14 September 2014 (UTC+3)
:::Where can i make a page or topic? So i can post board versions for iPod,iPhone,iPad because my intention was not for discussion of them here,i just want people to know that board versions are important. [[User:Wites OM Tesla|iTesla]] ([[User talk:Wites OM Tesla|talk]]) 23:42, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

== What are the real names for old iPhone versions? ==
Does someone know what are the real names of old iPhones? I'm developing hardware step-by-step solutions and I write in each, for example, "iPhone 2G No Backlight Solution". Is this the real name or is is "iPhone 1" or even just "iPhone"? Same thing for the iPhone 3G because, as we all know, it's the second generation, not the third. Then the third generation, we call "iPhone 3GS". I'm very confused about what to call the old models. Maybe we should call them these instead:
iPhone 1
iPhone 2
iPhone 3
iPhone 4
iPhone 4S
...
--[[User:Wites OM Tesla|iTesla]] ([[User talk:Wites OM Tesla|talk]]) 20:41, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
:The first iPhone was just called "iPhone". Then the second generation came around, and Apple dubbed it the "iPhone 3G" because it added support for 3G networks (compared to the original supporting just EDGE (2.5G)). It's unclear when the original was dubbed the "iPhone 2G" (after the 3G or 3GS), but the "2G" moniker was added because: (1) it came before the 3G, and (2) EDGE, although 2.5G, is sometimes called 2G because it came before 3G. After the "iPhone 3G" was the "iPhone 3GS" ("S" standing for "speed" due to a faster processor and more RAM). After that was the "iPhone 4", then the "iPhone 4S" ("S" not for processor "speed" this time, but probably because a newer processor is inherently faster at the same clock rate). After that was the "iPhone 5", then the (note the lowercase letters) "iPhone 5s" (again, "s" for "speed") and "iPhone 5c" ("c" for "color"). After those, we got the "iPhone 6" and the "iPhone 6 Plus" ("plus" because it's bigger). Hope that clears things up for you. --[[User:5urd|5urd]] ([[User talk:5urd|talk]]) 20:56, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
::Thank you for your input. I think I will leave it as is. --[[User:Wites OM Tesla|iTesla]] ([[User talk:Wites OM Tesla|talk]]) 21:20, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

Talk:Models

2015-02-06T23:43:10Z

Wites OM Tesla: /* iPhone BRD (board) Versions! */

== Removed models ==
Dialexio, you removed some models. I created the list based on infos in this wiki. I didn't know though if every storage size exists with every color and every combination with both bootroms. Based on what info did you remove the non-existent rows? It seems you removed too many of them. I just saw that my old 3GS, black, new bootrom, 32GB, is a MC133 and is no more listed. Can you please re-check those you removed? Thanks. -- [[User:Http|http]] 07:43, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
:Whoops. For some reason, I was thinking that only 8 GB units had the new bootrom at that time. :s --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] 15:37, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

== Another model number ==
I think on this page we should also add the other model numbers (like the A1332 for the iPhone 4 black) somehow. How are they related? -- [[User:Http|http]] 15:24, 13 October 2011 (MDT)
:They are added in the meantime. --[[User:Http|http]] 00:28, 31 October 2012 (MDT)

== iPhone 4S ==
According to the [http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/iPhone-4S-Teardown/6610/1 iFitIt Teardown], the model number for the [[n92ap|iPhone 4S]] is A1387... --[[User:5urd|5urd]] 07:23, 14 October 2011 (MDT)
:For which 4S model? Color, memory? Or for all the same? Do you know more? -- [[User:Http|http]] 10:59, 14 October 2011 (MDT)
::Well, the teardown is black... I am guessing sinse they dont use the devices, it would be 8GB... But A1387 sounds like the hardware model, not the device model that starts with <code>MB</code> or <code>MC</code>... So all iPhone 4S's may be A1387... --[[User:5urd|5urd]] 15:37, 14 October 2011 (MDT)
:I also have an A1387. I would like to add this number in the list as well. But currently I have no infos. We don't know if this model is different for different memory, color, bootrom, production facility, or for what. Please post here, if you know more or if you have other numbers. This number is engraved on the phone itself (backside). There's also a code "EMC 2430". Let us know if you have a different number there. -- [[User:Http|http]] 05:05, 23 December 2011 (MST)
::My A1387 is also EMC 2430. It's a black AT&T 16GB [[User:Beej|beej]] 09:24, 23 December 2011 (MST)

== iPad 3 and Apple TV 3G ==

MD328LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 16GB WHITE – USA
MC705LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 16GB BLACK - USA
MD329LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 32GB WHITE – USA
MD706LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 32GB BLACK - USA
MD330LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 64GB WHITE - USA
MC707LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 64GB BLACK - USA

MD366LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 4G 16GB BLACK - USA
MD369LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 16GB WHITE - USA
MD367LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 4G 32GB BLACK - USA
MD370LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 32GB WHITE - USA
MD368LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 4G 64GB BLACK - USA
MD371LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 64GB WHITE - USA

MD098LL/A – APPLE DIGITAL AV ADAPTER
MD199LL/A – APPLE TV – USA
--[[User:5urd|5urd]] 19:43, 9 March 2012 (MST)

:And because Verizon Wireless must get their own special version, causing everybody more headaches…
MC733LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 16GB BLACK - USA
MD363LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 16GB WHITE - USA
MC744LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 32GB BLACK - USA
MD364LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 32GB WHITE - USA
MC756LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 64GB BLACK - USA
MD365LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 64GB WHITE - USA
:--[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] 20:04, 9 March 2012 (MST)
::So would I be right in assuming that the ones on mine are AT&T --[[User:5urd|5urd]] 23:05, 9 March 2012 (MST)
:::Yeah. --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] 00:41, 10 March 2012 (MST)

== Cutting up the table ==
In direct contrast to what I'd like to do on the Firmware page, I would like to divide this table by device type. I feel that it'd be a bit easier to maintain (and perhaps find information) if we had different tables for Apple TVs, iPads, iPad minis(?), iPhones, and iPod touches. --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] 22:22, 30 October 2012 (MDT)
:I would like to keep the basic structure of the table as it is. But yes, it may be separated by device type, as this is the left-most column and therefore wouldn't change anything. --[[User:Http|http]] 00:24, 31 October 2012 (MDT)
:Done --[[User:5urd|5urd]] 16:32, 31 October 2012 (MDT)

== [[iPhone 5]] China ==
Please see [http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3939 Apple KB HT3939]. There is no GSM model it is just CDMA. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 08:37, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
:Perhaps this topic requires more information, particularly from somebody with an A1442 iPhone. At this time, there are two carriers in China that offer the iPhone: China Telecom and China Unicom.[http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1937] [http://store.apple.com/cn/browse/home/shop_iphone/family/iphone5 Apple's online store] suggests they have two models: the China Unicom model is GSM-unlocked, while the China Telecom model (the one with the new ME model numbers) is locked. Since China Telecom's model is locked and they have a CDMA network, it may be possible that the A1442 model is a CDMA-only variant. However, http://www.apple.com.cn/iphone/specs.html does mention that all models have support for various HSPA technologies, and it doesn't seem plausible for Apple to go out of their way to remove GSM functionality from a design that can already handle GSM and CDMA connections. Plus, it's not entirely clear if it can actually be unlocked in the future (a la Verizon and the iPhone 4S). --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|talk]]) 09:57, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
:: That is strange as the two website contradict each other. I think we should wait for someone with one too. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 11:48, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
:Let me provide some insight on the internals here. Internally, the baseband chip is able to support ''both'' GSM and CDMA. It's up to the baseband firmware to choose what to use. There are two [[IPSW File Format|IPSW]]s for each release as one contains the baseband firmware to support the GSM LTE bands in the United States. The other (Global) contains the baseband firmware to support the GSM bands outside of the United States and the CDMA bands across the world (where the [[iPhone 5]] has been release). This means that all devices support GSM. So, even if the device was released in China where it is only CDMA (and the device was modified to only work on China CDMA), the Global firmware still contains GSM support. That's just my though here. The only exception here would be if the China [[iPhone 5]] didn't work with ''both'' [[n41ap|iPhone5,1]] and [[n42ap|iPhone5,2]] firmwares, but it does (iPhone5,2). --[[User:5urd|5urd]] ([[User talk:5urd|talk]]) 18:44, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

=== iPhone 5s China ===
There are also currently at least two 5s versions in China (http://store.apple.com/cn/buy-iphone/iphone5s)
* WCDMA/GSM iPhone A1528 (for China Unicom ??)
* iPhone A1533 (for China Telecom ??)

Just as reference I have a A1457 (got it in Germany), but it will not connect to the new 4G LTE in China Mobile network (even so I have a LTE sim card). According to China Mobile the A1530 (Hongkong version) can be used possibly in LTE (China Mobile) mode.--[[User:M2m|M2m]] ([[User talk:M2m|talk]]) 08:10, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

http://www.apple.com/iphone/LTE/ as reference. --[[User:M2m|M2m]] ([[User talk:M2m|talk]]) 08:17, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

== Finding new devices. ==

I was wondering how do you find the new device numbers like iPhone5,2? I know there is an info.plist but I'm not sure where it is located. Does this one update itself or what? --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 18:31, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

== Connector ==

So how do we add the iAccy1,2, A1438, with the [[S5L8747]] everywhere? It's not running [[iOS]], but still belongs into this wiki I think. --[[User:Http|http]] ([[User talk:Http|talk]]) 00:58, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
:I think that setting up the adapter's page similarly to the baseband pages (at [[iAccy1,2]]? I don't think it belongs on the SoC's page) would work best. The page can have a blurb about the accessory, a list of known firmware versions, and then the OTA updates. --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|talk]]) 01:41, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

== Bootrom versions. ==

How do w check the bootrom version of A5+? --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 23:57, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
:The same way as always: DFU Mode. The S5L8942 (at least the one found in the [[j33ap|Apple TV 3G]]) doesn't report a bootrom version, however. --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|talk]]) 00:09, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
:: System Profiler on Mac does not show it for iPod touch 5. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 00:15, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

== iPhone3,2 ==

Do we actually know that these are model numbers for the iPhone3,2, or is this just blind speculation like what happened with identifying the [[S5L8947]]? --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|talk]]) 22:24, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
:From store.apple.com. They are legit. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 22:53, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
::They could still be iPhone3,1 models though… The iPad2,4 case was about this simple, but Apple likes using a lot of various model numbers for each iPhone (much more than an iPad, anyways). Maybe I'm being too paranoid about this though. (Something to note is that some of the listed model numbers overlap with the iPhone3,1.) --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|talk]]) 04:12, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
:::Deleted them. I just left the ME as they are different. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 07:49, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

== iPhone BRD (board) Versions! ==
'''iPhone 6'''
As a hardware technician i found there are different version of BRD (board) layout of component placement.
1st:BRD 820-3486-09
'''iPhone 6 Plus'''
1st:BRD 820-3675-05
2nd:BRD 920-00203-01
'''iPhone 5S'''
1st:BRD 820-3382-05
2nd:BRD 820-3382-07
3rd:BRD 820-3382-A EU region,Bertone MLB Placement.
4th:BRD 820-3292-A US region,Zagato MLB Placement.
'''iPhone 5C'''
1st:BRD 820-3581-05
2nd:BRD 820-3581-A EU region
3rd:BRD 820-3928-A US region
'''iPhone 5'''
1st:BRD 820-3141-07
2nd:BRD 820-3141-B
: oh? what exactly changed between the two models? --[[User:Haifisch|Haifisch]] ([[User talk:Haifisch|talk]]) 20:31, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
::The differences are between Network and Wi-Fi parts maybe something else i not know. [[User:Wites Om Tesla|Wites OM Tesla]] 22:21, 14 September 2014 (UTC+3)
:::Where can i make a page or topic? So i can post board versions for iPod,iPhone,iPad because my intention was not for discussion of them here,i just want people to know that board versions are important. [[User:Wites OM Tesla|iTesla]] ([[User talk:Wites OM Tesla|talk]]) 23:42, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

== What are the real names for old iPhone versions? ==
Does someone know what are the real names of old iPhones? I'm developing hardware step-by-step solutions and I write in each, for example, "iPhone 2G No Backlight Solution". Is this the real name or is is "iPhone 1" or even just "iPhone"? Same thing for the iPhone 3G because, as we all know, it's the second generation, not the third. Then the third generation, we call "iPhone 3GS". I'm very confused about what to call the old models. Maybe we should call them these instead:
iPhone 1
iPhone 2
iPhone 3
iPhone 4
iPhone 4S
...
--[[User:Wites OM Tesla|iTesla]] ([[User talk:Wites OM Tesla|talk]]) 20:41, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
:The first iPhone was just called "iPhone". Then the second generation came around, and Apple dubbed it the "iPhone 3G" because it added support for 3G networks (compared to the original supporting just EDGE (2.5G)). It's unclear when the original was dubbed the "iPhone 2G" (after the 3G or 3GS), but the "2G" moniker was added because: (1) it came before the 3G, and (2) EDGE, although 2.5G, is sometimes called 2G because it came before 3G. After the "iPhone 3G" was the "iPhone 3GS" ("S" standing for "speed" due to a faster processor and more RAM). After that was the "iPhone 4", then the "iPhone 4S" ("S" not for processor "speed" this time, but probably because a newer processor is inherently faster at the same clock rate). After that was the "iPhone 5", then the (note the lowercase letters) "iPhone 5s" (again, "s" for "speed") and "iPhone 5c" ("c" for "color"). After those, we got the "iPhone 6" and the "iPhone 6 Plus" ("plus" because it's bigger). Hope that clears things up for you. --[[User:5urd|5urd]] ([[User talk:5urd|talk]]) 20:56, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
::Thank you for your input. I think I will leave it as is. --[[User:Wites OM Tesla|iTesla]] ([[User talk:Wites OM Tesla|talk]]) 21:20, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

Talk:Models

2014-11-08T23:42:22Z

Wites OM Tesla: /* iPhone BRD (board) Versions! */

== Removed models ==
Dialexio, you removed some models. I created the list based on infos in this wiki. I didn't know though if every storage size exists with every color and every combination with both bootroms. Based on what info did you remove the non-existent rows? It seems you removed too many of them. I just saw that my old 3GS, black, new bootrom, 32GB, is a MC133 and is no more listed. Can you please re-check those you removed? Thanks. -- [[User:Http|http]] 07:43, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
:Whoops. For some reason, I was thinking that only 8 GB units had the new bootrom at that time. :s --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] 15:37, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

== Another model number ==
I think on this page we should also add the other model numbers (like the A1332 for the iPhone 4 black) somehow. How are they related? -- [[User:Http|http]] 15:24, 13 October 2011 (MDT)
:They are added in the meantime. --[[User:Http|http]] 00:28, 31 October 2012 (MDT)

== iPhone 4S ==
According to the [http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/iPhone-4S-Teardown/6610/1 iFitIt Teardown], the model number for the [[n92ap|iPhone 4S]] is A1387... --[[User:5urd|5urd]] 07:23, 14 October 2011 (MDT)
:For which 4S model? Color, memory? Or for all the same? Do you know more? -- [[User:Http|http]] 10:59, 14 October 2011 (MDT)
::Well, the teardown is black... I am guessing sinse they dont use the devices, it would be 8GB... But A1387 sounds like the hardware model, not the device model that starts with <code>MB</code> or <code>MC</code>... So all iPhone 4S's may be A1387... --[[User:5urd|5urd]] 15:37, 14 October 2011 (MDT)
:I also have an A1387. I would like to add this number in the list as well. But currently I have no infos. We don't know if this model is different for different memory, color, bootrom, production facility, or for what. Please post here, if you know more or if you have other numbers. This number is engraved on the phone itself (backside). There's also a code "EMC 2430". Let us know if you have a different number there. -- [[User:Http|http]] 05:05, 23 December 2011 (MST)
::My A1387 is also EMC 2430. It's a black AT&T 16GB [[User:Beej|beej]] 09:24, 23 December 2011 (MST)

== iPad 3 and Apple TV 3G ==

MD328LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 16GB WHITE – USA
MC705LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 16GB BLACK - USA
MD329LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 32GB WHITE – USA
MD706LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 32GB BLACK - USA
MD330LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 64GB WHITE - USA
MC707LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 64GB BLACK - USA

MD366LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 4G 16GB BLACK - USA
MD369LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 16GB WHITE - USA
MD367LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 4G 32GB BLACK - USA
MD370LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 32GB WHITE - USA
MD368LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 4G 64GB BLACK - USA
MD371LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 64GB WHITE - USA

MD098LL/A – APPLE DIGITAL AV ADAPTER
MD199LL/A – APPLE TV – USA
--[[User:5urd|5urd]] 19:43, 9 March 2012 (MST)

:And because Verizon Wireless must get their own special version, causing everybody more headaches…
MC733LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 16GB BLACK - USA
MD363LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 16GB WHITE - USA
MC744LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 32GB BLACK - USA
MD364LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 32GB WHITE - USA
MC756LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 64GB BLACK - USA
MD365LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 64GB WHITE - USA
:--[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] 20:04, 9 March 2012 (MST)
::So would I be right in assuming that the ones on mine are AT&T --[[User:5urd|5urd]] 23:05, 9 March 2012 (MST)
:::Yeah. --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] 00:41, 10 March 2012 (MST)

== Cutting up the table ==
In direct contrast to what I'd like to do on the Firmware page, I would like to divide this table by device type. I feel that it'd be a bit easier to maintain (and perhaps find information) if we had different tables for Apple TVs, iPads, iPad minis(?), iPhones, and iPod touches. --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] 22:22, 30 October 2012 (MDT)
:I would like to keep the basic structure of the table as it is. But yes, it may be separated by device type, as this is the left-most column and therefore wouldn't change anything. --[[User:Http|http]] 00:24, 31 October 2012 (MDT)
:Done --[[User:5urd|5urd]] 16:32, 31 October 2012 (MDT)

== [[iPhone 5]] China ==
Please see [http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3939 Apple KB HT3939]. There is no GSM model it is just CDMA. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 08:37, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
:Perhaps this topic requires more information, particularly from somebody with an A1442 iPhone. At this time, there are two carriers in China that offer the iPhone: China Telecom and China Unicom.[http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1937] [http://store.apple.com/cn/browse/home/shop_iphone/family/iphone5 Apple's online store] suggests they have two models: the China Unicom model is GSM-unlocked, while the China Telecom model (the one with the new ME model numbers) is locked. Since China Telecom's model is locked and they have a CDMA network, it may be possible that the A1442 model is a CDMA-only variant. However, http://www.apple.com.cn/iphone/specs.html does mention that all models have support for various HSPA technologies, and it doesn't seem plausible for Apple to go out of their way to remove GSM functionality from a design that can already handle GSM and CDMA connections. Plus, it's not entirely clear if it can actually be unlocked in the future (a la Verizon and the iPhone 4S). --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|talk]]) 09:57, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
:: That is strange as the two website contradict each other. I think we should wait for someone with one too. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 11:48, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
:Let me provide some insight on the internals here. Internally, the baseband chip is able to support ''both'' GSM and CDMA. It's up to the baseband firmware to choose what to use. There are two [[IPSW File Format|IPSW]]s for each release as one contains the baseband firmware to support the GSM LTE bands in the United States. The other (Global) contains the baseband firmware to support the GSM bands outside of the United States and the CDMA bands across the world (where the [[iPhone 5]] has been release). This means that all devices support GSM. So, even if the device was released in China where it is only CDMA (and the device was modified to only work on China CDMA), the Global firmware still contains GSM support. That's just my though here. The only exception here would be if the China [[iPhone 5]] didn't work with ''both'' [[n41ap|iPhone5,1]] and [[n42ap|iPhone5,2]] firmwares, but it does (iPhone5,2). --[[User:5urd|5urd]] ([[User talk:5urd|talk]]) 18:44, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

=== iPhone 5s China ===
There are also currently at least two 5s versions in China (http://store.apple.com/cn/buy-iphone/iphone5s)
* WCDMA/GSM iPhone A1528 (for China Unicom ??)
* iPhone A1533 (for China Telecom ??)

Just as reference I have a A1457 (got it in Germany), but it will not connect to the new 4G LTE in China Mobile network (even so I have a LTE sim card). According to China Mobile the A1530 (Hongkong version) can be used possibly in LTE (China Mobile) mode.--[[User:M2m|M2m]] ([[User talk:M2m|talk]]) 08:10, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

http://www.apple.com/iphone/LTE/ as reference. --[[User:M2m|M2m]] ([[User talk:M2m|talk]]) 08:17, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

== Finding new devices. ==

I was wondering how do you find the new device numbers like iPhone5,2? I know there is an info.plist but I'm not sure where it is located. Does this one update itself or what? --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 18:31, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

== Connector ==

So how do we add the iAccy1,2, A1438, with the [[S5L8747]] everywhere? It's not running [[iOS]], but still belongs into this wiki I think. --[[User:Http|http]] ([[User talk:Http|talk]]) 00:58, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
:I think that setting up the adapter's page similarly to the baseband pages (at [[iAccy1,2]]? I don't think it belongs on the SoC's page) would work best. The page can have a blurb about the accessory, a list of known firmware versions, and then the OTA updates. --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|talk]]) 01:41, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

== Bootrom versions. ==

How do w check the bootrom version of A5+? --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 23:57, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
:The same way as always: DFU Mode. The S5L8942 (at least the one found in the [[j33ap|Apple TV 3G]]) doesn't report a bootrom version, however. --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|talk]]) 00:09, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
:: System Profiler on Mac does not show it for iPod touch 5. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 00:15, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

== iPhone3,2 ==

Do we actually know that these are model numbers for the iPhone3,2, or is this just blind speculation like what happened with identifying the [[S5L8947]]? --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|talk]]) 22:24, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
:From store.apple.com. They are legit. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 22:53, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
::They could still be iPhone3,1 models though… The iPad2,4 case was about this simple, but Apple likes using a lot of various model numbers for each iPhone (much more than an iPad, anyways). Maybe I'm being too paranoid about this though. (Something to note is that some of the listed model numbers overlap with the iPhone3,1.) --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|talk]]) 04:12, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
:::Deleted them. I just left the ME as they are different. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 07:49, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

== iPhone BRD (board) Versions! ==

'''iPhone 6'''

As a hardware technician i found there are different version of BRD (board) layout of component placement.
1st:820-3486 unknown yet
2nd:820-3675 unknown yet
3rd:920-00203 unknown yet
'''iPhone 5S'''
1st:820-3382 EU region,Bertone MLB Placement.
2nd:820-3292 US region,Zagato MLB Placement.
There is a third version of layout but i never see it.

'''iPhone 5C'''
1st:820-3581 EU region
2nd:820-3928 US region
'''iPhone 5'''
1st:820-3141 US,EU region
: oh? what exactly changed between the two models? --[[User:Haifisch|Haifisch]] ([[User talk:Haifisch|talk]]) 20:31, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
::The differences are between Network and Wi-Fi parts maybe something else i not know. [[User:Wites Om Tesla|Wites OM Tesla]] 22:21, 14 September 2014 (UTC+3)
:::Where can i make a page or topic? So i can post board versions for iPod,iPhone,iPad because my intention was not for discussion of them here,i just want people to know that board versions are important. [[User:Wites OM Tesla|iTesla]] ([[User talk:Wites OM Tesla|talk]]) 23:42, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

== What are the real names for old iPhone versions? ==
Does someone know what are the real names of old iPhones? I'm developing hardware step-by-step solutions and I write in each, for example, "iPhone 2G No Backlight Solution". Is this the real name or is is "iPhone 1" or even just "iPhone"? Same thing for the iPhone 3G because, as we all know, it's the second generation, not the third. Then the third generation, we call "iPhone 3GS". I'm very confused about what to call the old models. Maybe we should call them these instead:
iPhone 1
iPhone 2
iPhone 3
iPhone 4
iPhone 4S
...
--[[User:Wites OM Tesla|iTesla]] ([[User talk:Wites OM Tesla|talk]]) 20:41, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
:The first iPhone was just called "iPhone". Then the second generation came around, and Apple dubbed it the "iPhone 3G" because it added support for 3G networks (compared to the original supporting just EDGE (2.5G)). It's unclear when the original was dubbed the "iPhone 2G" (after the 3G or 3GS), but the "2G" moniker was added because: (1) it came before the 3G, and (2) EDGE, although 2.5G, is sometimes called 2G because it came before 3G. After the "iPhone 3G" was the "iPhone 3GS" ("S" standing for "speed" due to a faster processor and more RAM). After that was the "iPhone 4", then the "iPhone 4S" ("S" not for processor "speed" this time, but probably because a newer processor is inherently faster at the same clock rate). After that was the "iPhone 5", then the (note the lowercase letters) "iPhone 5s" (again, "s" for "speed") and "iPhone 5c" ("c" for "color"). After those, we got the "iPhone 6" and the "iPhone 6 Plus" ("plus" because it's bigger). Hope that clears things up for you. --[[User:5urd|5urd]] ([[User talk:5urd|talk]]) 20:56, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
::Thank you for your input. I think I will leave it as is. --[[User:Wites OM Tesla|iTesla]] ([[User talk:Wites OM Tesla|talk]]) 21:20, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

Talk:Models

2014-11-02T21:20:42Z

Wites OM Tesla: /* Real names of iPhone? */

== Removed models ==
Dialexio, you removed some models. I created the list based on infos in this wiki. I didn't know though if every storage size exists with every color and every combination with both bootroms. Based on what info did you remove the non-existent rows? It seems you removed too many of them. I just saw that my old 3GS, black, new bootrom, 32GB, is a MC133 and is no more listed. Can you please re-check those you removed? Thanks. -- [[User:Http|http]] 07:43, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
:Whoops. For some reason, I was thinking that only 8 GB units had the new bootrom at that time. :s --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] 15:37, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

== Another model number ==
I think on this page we should also add the other model numbers (like the A1332 for the iPhone 4 black) somehow. How are they related? -- [[User:Http|http]] 15:24, 13 October 2011 (MDT)
:They are added in the meantime. --[[User:Http|http]] 00:28, 31 October 2012 (MDT)

== iPhone 4S ==
According to the [http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/iPhone-4S-Teardown/6610/1 iFitIt Teardown], the model number for the [[n92ap|iPhone 4S]] is A1387... --[[User:5urd|5urd]] 07:23, 14 October 2011 (MDT)
:For which 4S model? Color, memory? Or for all the same? Do you know more? -- [[User:Http|http]] 10:59, 14 October 2011 (MDT)
::Well, the teardown is black... I am guessing sinse they dont use the devices, it would be 8GB... But A1387 sounds like the hardware model, not the device model that starts with <code>MB</code> or <code>MC</code>... So all iPhone 4S's may be A1387... --[[User:5urd|5urd]] 15:37, 14 October 2011 (MDT)
:I also have an A1387. I would like to add this number in the list as well. But currently I have no infos. We don't know if this model is different for different memory, color, bootrom, production facility, or for what. Please post here, if you know more or if you have other numbers. This number is engraved on the phone itself (backside). There's also a code "EMC 2430". Let us know if you have a different number there. -- [[User:Http|http]] 05:05, 23 December 2011 (MST)
::My A1387 is also EMC 2430. It's a black AT&T 16GB [[User:Beej|beej]] 09:24, 23 December 2011 (MST)

== iPad 3 and Apple TV 3G ==

MD328LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 16GB WHITE – USA
MC705LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 16GB BLACK - USA
MD329LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 32GB WHITE – USA
MD706LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 32GB BLACK - USA
MD330LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 64GB WHITE - USA
MC707LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 64GB BLACK - USA

MD366LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 4G 16GB BLACK - USA
MD369LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 16GB WHITE - USA
MD367LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 4G 32GB BLACK - USA
MD370LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 32GB WHITE - USA
MD368LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 4G 64GB BLACK - USA
MD371LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 64GB WHITE - USA

MD098LL/A – APPLE DIGITAL AV ADAPTER
MD199LL/A – APPLE TV – USA
--[[User:5urd|5urd]] 19:43, 9 March 2012 (MST)

:And because Verizon Wireless must get their own special version, causing everybody more headaches…
MC733LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 16GB BLACK - USA
MD363LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 16GB WHITE - USA
MC744LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 32GB BLACK - USA
MD364LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 32GB WHITE - USA
MC756LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 64GB BLACK - USA
MD365LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 64GB WHITE - USA
:--[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] 20:04, 9 March 2012 (MST)
::So would I be right in assuming that the ones on mine are AT&T --[[User:5urd|5urd]] 23:05, 9 March 2012 (MST)
:::Yeah. --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] 00:41, 10 March 2012 (MST)

== Cutting up the table ==
In direct contrast to what I'd like to do on the Firmware page, I would like to divide this table by device type. I feel that it'd be a bit easier to maintain (and perhaps find information) if we had different tables for Apple TVs, iPads, iPad minis(?), iPhones, and iPod touches. --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] 22:22, 30 October 2012 (MDT)
:I would like to keep the basic structure of the table as it is. But yes, it may be separated by device type, as this is the left-most column and therefore wouldn't change anything. --[[User:Http|http]] 00:24, 31 October 2012 (MDT)
:Done --[[User:5urd|5urd]] 16:32, 31 October 2012 (MDT)

== [[iPhone 5]] China ==
Please see [http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3939 Apple KB HT3939]. There is no GSM model it is just CDMA. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 08:37, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
:Perhaps this topic requires more information, particularly from somebody with an A1442 iPhone. At this time, there are two carriers in China that offer the iPhone: China Telecom and China Unicom.[http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1937] [http://store.apple.com/cn/browse/home/shop_iphone/family/iphone5 Apple's online store] suggests they have two models: the China Unicom model is GSM-unlocked, while the China Telecom model (the one with the new ME model numbers) is locked. Since China Telecom's model is locked and they have a CDMA network, it may be possible that the A1442 model is a CDMA-only variant. However, http://www.apple.com.cn/iphone/specs.html does mention that all models have support for various HSPA technologies, and it doesn't seem plausible for Apple to go out of their way to remove GSM functionality from a design that can already handle GSM and CDMA connections. Plus, it's not entirely clear if it can actually be unlocked in the future (a la Verizon and the iPhone 4S). --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|talk]]) 09:57, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
:: That is strange as the two website contradict each other. I think we should wait for someone with one too. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 11:48, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
:Let me provide some insight on the internals here. Internally, the baseband chip is able to support ''both'' GSM and CDMA. It's up to the baseband firmware to choose what to use. There are two [[IPSW File Format|IPSW]]s for each release as one contains the baseband firmware to support the GSM LTE bands in the United States. The other (Global) contains the baseband firmware to support the GSM bands outside of the United States and the CDMA bands across the world (where the [[iPhone 5]] has been release). This means that all devices support GSM. So, even if the device was released in China where it is only CDMA (and the device was modified to only work on China CDMA), the Global firmware still contains GSM support. That's just my though here. The only exception here would be if the China [[iPhone 5]] didn't work with ''both'' [[n41ap|iPhone5,1]] and [[n42ap|iPhone5,2]] firmwares, but it does (iPhone5,2). --[[User:5urd|5urd]] ([[User talk:5urd|talk]]) 18:44, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

=== iPhone 5s China ===
There are also currently at least two 5s versions in China (http://store.apple.com/cn/buy-iphone/iphone5s)
* WCDMA/GSM iPhone A1528 (for China Unicom ??)
* iPhone A1533 (for China Telecom ??)

Just as reference I have a A1457 (got it in Germany), but it will not connect to the new 4G LTE in China Mobile network (even so I have a LTE sim card). According to China Mobile the A1530 (Hongkong version) can be used possibly in LTE (China Mobile) mode.--[[User:M2m|M2m]] ([[User talk:M2m|talk]]) 08:10, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

http://www.apple.com/iphone/LTE/ as reference. --[[User:M2m|M2m]] ([[User talk:M2m|talk]]) 08:17, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

== Finding new devices. ==

I was wondering how do you find the new device numbers like iPhone5,2? I know there is an info.plist but I'm not sure where it is located. Does this one update itself or what? --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 18:31, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

== Connector ==

So how do we add the iAccy1,2, A1438, with the [[S5L8747]] everywhere? It's not running [[iOS]], but still belongs into this wiki I think. --[[User:Http|http]] ([[User talk:Http|talk]]) 00:58, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
:I think that setting up the adapter's page similarly to the baseband pages (at [[iAccy1,2]]? I don't think it belongs on the SoC's page) would work best. The page can have a blurb about the accessory, a list of known firmware versions, and then the OTA updates. --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|talk]]) 01:41, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

== Bootrom versions. ==

How do w check the bootrom version of A5+? --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 23:57, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
:The same way as always: DFU Mode. The S5L8942 (at least the one found in the [[j33ap|Apple TV 3G]]) doesn't report a bootrom version, however. --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|talk]]) 00:09, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
:: System Profiler on Mac does not show it for iPod touch 5. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 00:15, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

== iPhone3,2 ==

Do we actually know that these are model numbers for the iPhone3,2, or is this just blind speculation like what happened with identifying the [[S5L8947]]? --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|talk]]) 22:24, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
:From store.apple.com. They are legit. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 22:53, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
::They could still be iPhone3,1 models though… The iPad2,4 case was about this simple, but Apple likes using a lot of various model numbers for each iPhone (much more than an iPad, anyways). Maybe I'm being too paranoid about this though. (Something to note is that some of the listed model numbers overlap with the iPhone3,1.) --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|talk]]) 04:12, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
:::Deleted them. I just left the ME as they are different. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 07:49, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

== iPhone BRD (board) Versions! ==

'''iPhone 6'''

As a hardware technician i found there are different version of BRD (board) layout of component placement.
1st:820-3486 unknown yet
2nd:820-3675 unknown yet
3rd:920-00203 unknown yet
'''iPhone 5S'''
1st:820-3382 EU region,Bertone MLB Placement.
2nd:820-3292 US region,Zagato MLB Placement.
There is a third version of layout but i never see it.

'''iPhone 5C'''
1st:820-3581 EU region
2nd:820-3928 US region
'''iPhone 5'''
1st:820-3141 US,EU region
: oh? what exactly changed between the two models? --[[User:Haifisch|Haifisch]] ([[User talk:Haifisch|talk]]) 20:31, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
::The differences are between Network and Wi-Fi parts maybe something else i not know. [[User:Wites Om Tesla|Wites OM Tesla]] 22:21, 14 September 2014 (UTC+3)

== Real names of iPhone? ==
Hi all have a question: does someone know what are the real names of Apple devices?
I m developing hardware step by step solutions and i write in each for example iPhone 2G No Backlight Solution. I wonder is this true or not because it is first iPhone maybe name it just iPhone 1 or iPhone,same thing for iPhone 3G as we know it is second iPhone not 3rd gen,3rd gen is the iPhone which we call 3GS please help as i m very confused about this old models.
Maybe it should go as follow? --[[User:Wites OM Tesla|iTesla]] ([[User talk:Wites OM Tesla|talk]]) 21:11, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
iPhone 1
iPhone 2
iPhone 3
iPhone 4
iPhone 4S
iPhone 5
iPhone 5C
iPhone 5S
{{unsigned|Wites OM Tesla|20:41, 2 November 2014 (UTC)}}
:The first iPhone was just called "iPhone". Then the second generation came around, and Apple dubbed it the "iPhone 3G" because it added support for 3G networks (compared to the original supporting just EDGE (2.5G)). It's unclear when the original was dubbed the "iPhone 2G" (after the 3G or 3GS), but the "2G" moniker was added because: (1) it came before the 3G, and (2) EDGE, although 2.5G, is sometimes called 2G because it came before 3G. After the "iPhone 3G" was the "iPhone 3GS" ("S" standing for "speed" due to a faster processor and more RAM). After that was the "iPhone 4", then the "iPhone 4S" ("S" not for processor "speed" this time, but probably because a newer processor is inherently faster at the same clock rate). After that was the "iPhone 5", then the (note the lowercase letters) "iPhone 5s" (again, "s" for "speed") and "iPhone 5c" ("c" for "color"). After those, we got the "iPhone 6" and the "iPhone 6 Plus" ("plus" because it's bigger). Hope that clears things up for you. --[[User:5urd|5urd]] ([[User talk:5urd|talk]]) 20:56, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
::Thank you for your input, i think i will leave as is in this great iPhone Wiki site. --[[User:Wites OM Tesla|iTesla]] ([[User talk:Wites OM Tesla|talk]]) 21:20, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

Talk:Models

2014-11-02T21:11:46Z

Wites OM Tesla: /* Real names of iPhone? */

== Removed models ==
Dialexio, you removed some models. I created the list based on infos in this wiki. I didn't know though if every storage size exists with every color and every combination with both bootroms. Based on what info did you remove the non-existent rows? It seems you removed too many of them. I just saw that my old 3GS, black, new bootrom, 32GB, is a MC133 and is no more listed. Can you please re-check those you removed? Thanks. -- [[User:Http|http]] 07:43, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
:Whoops. For some reason, I was thinking that only 8 GB units had the new bootrom at that time. :s --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] 15:37, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

== Another model number ==
I think on this page we should also add the other model numbers (like the A1332 for the iPhone 4 black) somehow. How are they related? -- [[User:Http|http]] 15:24, 13 October 2011 (MDT)
:They are added in the meantime. --[[User:Http|http]] 00:28, 31 October 2012 (MDT)

== iPhone 4S ==
According to the [http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/iPhone-4S-Teardown/6610/1 iFitIt Teardown], the model number for the [[n92ap|iPhone 4S]] is A1387... --[[User:5urd|5urd]] 07:23, 14 October 2011 (MDT)
:For which 4S model? Color, memory? Or for all the same? Do you know more? -- [[User:Http|http]] 10:59, 14 October 2011 (MDT)
::Well, the teardown is black... I am guessing sinse they dont use the devices, it would be 8GB... But A1387 sounds like the hardware model, not the device model that starts with <code>MB</code> or <code>MC</code>... So all iPhone 4S's may be A1387... --[[User:5urd|5urd]] 15:37, 14 October 2011 (MDT)
:I also have an A1387. I would like to add this number in the list as well. But currently I have no infos. We don't know if this model is different for different memory, color, bootrom, production facility, or for what. Please post here, if you know more or if you have other numbers. This number is engraved on the phone itself (backside). There's also a code "EMC 2430". Let us know if you have a different number there. -- [[User:Http|http]] 05:05, 23 December 2011 (MST)
::My A1387 is also EMC 2430. It's a black AT&T 16GB [[User:Beej|beej]] 09:24, 23 December 2011 (MST)

== iPad 3 and Apple TV 3G ==

MD328LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 16GB WHITE – USA
MC705LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 16GB BLACK - USA
MD329LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 32GB WHITE – USA
MD706LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 32GB BLACK - USA
MD330LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 64GB WHITE - USA
MC707LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 64GB BLACK - USA

MD366LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 4G 16GB BLACK - USA
MD369LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 16GB WHITE - USA
MD367LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 4G 32GB BLACK - USA
MD370LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 32GB WHITE - USA
MD368LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 4G 64GB BLACK - USA
MD371LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 64GB WHITE - USA

MD098LL/A – APPLE DIGITAL AV ADAPTER
MD199LL/A – APPLE TV – USA
--[[User:5urd|5urd]] 19:43, 9 March 2012 (MST)

:And because Verizon Wireless must get their own special version, causing everybody more headaches…
MC733LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 16GB BLACK - USA
MD363LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 16GB WHITE - USA
MC744LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 32GB BLACK - USA
MD364LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 32GB WHITE - USA
MC756LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 64GB BLACK - USA
MD365LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 64GB WHITE - USA
:--[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] 20:04, 9 March 2012 (MST)
::So would I be right in assuming that the ones on mine are AT&T --[[User:5urd|5urd]] 23:05, 9 March 2012 (MST)
:::Yeah. --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] 00:41, 10 March 2012 (MST)

== Cutting up the table ==
In direct contrast to what I'd like to do on the Firmware page, I would like to divide this table by device type. I feel that it'd be a bit easier to maintain (and perhaps find information) if we had different tables for Apple TVs, iPads, iPad minis(?), iPhones, and iPod touches. --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] 22:22, 30 October 2012 (MDT)
:I would like to keep the basic structure of the table as it is. But yes, it may be separated by device type, as this is the left-most column and therefore wouldn't change anything. --[[User:Http|http]] 00:24, 31 October 2012 (MDT)
:Done --[[User:5urd|5urd]] 16:32, 31 October 2012 (MDT)

== [[iPhone 5]] China ==
Please see [http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3939 Apple KB HT3939]. There is no GSM model it is just CDMA. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 08:37, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
:Perhaps this topic requires more information, particularly from somebody with an A1442 iPhone. At this time, there are two carriers in China that offer the iPhone: China Telecom and China Unicom.[http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1937] [http://store.apple.com/cn/browse/home/shop_iphone/family/iphone5 Apple's online store] suggests they have two models: the China Unicom model is GSM-unlocked, while the China Telecom model (the one with the new ME model numbers) is locked. Since China Telecom's model is locked and they have a CDMA network, it may be possible that the A1442 model is a CDMA-only variant. However, http://www.apple.com.cn/iphone/specs.html does mention that all models have support for various HSPA technologies, and it doesn't seem plausible for Apple to go out of their way to remove GSM functionality from a design that can already handle GSM and CDMA connections. Plus, it's not entirely clear if it can actually be unlocked in the future (a la Verizon and the iPhone 4S). --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|talk]]) 09:57, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
:: That is strange as the two website contradict each other. I think we should wait for someone with one too. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 11:48, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
:Let me provide some insight on the internals here. Internally, the baseband chip is able to support ''both'' GSM and CDMA. It's up to the baseband firmware to choose what to use. There are two [[IPSW File Format|IPSW]]s for each release as one contains the baseband firmware to support the GSM LTE bands in the United States. The other (Global) contains the baseband firmware to support the GSM bands outside of the United States and the CDMA bands across the world (where the [[iPhone 5]] has been release). This means that all devices support GSM. So, even if the device was released in China where it is only CDMA (and the device was modified to only work on China CDMA), the Global firmware still contains GSM support. That's just my though here. The only exception here would be if the China [[iPhone 5]] didn't work with ''both'' [[n41ap|iPhone5,1]] and [[n42ap|iPhone5,2]] firmwares, but it does (iPhone5,2). --[[User:5urd|5urd]] ([[User talk:5urd|talk]]) 18:44, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

=== iPhone 5s China ===
There are also currently at least two 5s versions in China (http://store.apple.com/cn/buy-iphone/iphone5s)
* WCDMA/GSM iPhone A1528 (for China Unicom ??)
* iPhone A1533 (for China Telecom ??)

Just as reference I have a A1457 (got it in Germany), but it will not connect to the new 4G LTE in China Mobile network (even so I have a LTE sim card). According to China Mobile the A1530 (Hongkong version) can be used possibly in LTE (China Mobile) mode.--[[User:M2m|M2m]] ([[User talk:M2m|talk]]) 08:10, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

http://www.apple.com/iphone/LTE/ as reference. --[[User:M2m|M2m]] ([[User talk:M2m|talk]]) 08:17, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

== Finding new devices. ==

I was wondering how do you find the new device numbers like iPhone5,2? I know there is an info.plist but I'm not sure where it is located. Does this one update itself or what? --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 18:31, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

== Connector ==

So how do we add the iAccy1,2, A1438, with the [[S5L8747]] everywhere? It's not running [[iOS]], but still belongs into this wiki I think. --[[User:Http|http]] ([[User talk:Http|talk]]) 00:58, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
:I think that setting up the adapter's page similarly to the baseband pages (at [[iAccy1,2]]? I don't think it belongs on the SoC's page) would work best. The page can have a blurb about the accessory, a list of known firmware versions, and then the OTA updates. --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|talk]]) 01:41, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

== Bootrom versions. ==

How do w check the bootrom version of A5+? --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 23:57, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
:The same way as always: DFU Mode. The S5L8942 (at least the one found in the [[j33ap|Apple TV 3G]]) doesn't report a bootrom version, however. --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|talk]]) 00:09, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
:: System Profiler on Mac does not show it for iPod touch 5. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 00:15, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

== iPhone3,2 ==

Do we actually know that these are model numbers for the iPhone3,2, or is this just blind speculation like what happened with identifying the [[S5L8947]]? --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|talk]]) 22:24, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
:From store.apple.com. They are legit. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 22:53, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
::They could still be iPhone3,1 models though… The iPad2,4 case was about this simple, but Apple likes using a lot of various model numbers for each iPhone (much more than an iPad, anyways). Maybe I'm being too paranoid about this though. (Something to note is that some of the listed model numbers overlap with the iPhone3,1.) --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|talk]]) 04:12, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
:::Deleted them. I just left the ME as they are different. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 07:49, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

== iPhone BRD (board) Versions! ==

'''iPhone 6'''

As a hardware technician i found there are different version of BRD (board) layout of component placement.
1st:820-3486 unknown yet
2nd:820-3675 unknown yet
3rd:920-00203 unknown yet
'''iPhone 5S'''
1st:820-3382 EU region,Bertone MLB Placement.
2nd:820-3292 US region,Zagato MLB Placement.
There is a third version of layout but i never see it.

'''iPhone 5C'''
1st:820-3581 EU region
2nd:820-3928 US region
'''iPhone 5'''
1st:820-3141 US,EU region
: oh? what exactly changed between the two models? --[[User:Haifisch|Haifisch]] ([[User talk:Haifisch|talk]]) 20:31, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
::The differences are between Network and Wi-Fi parts maybe something else i not know. [[User:Wites Om Tesla|Wites OM Tesla]] 22:21, 14 September 2014 (UTC+3)

== Real names of iPhone? ==
Hi all have a question: does someone know what are the real names of Apple devices?
I m developing hardware step by step solutions and i write in each for example iPhone 2G No Backlight Solution. I wonder is this true or not because it is first iPhone maybe name it just iPhone 1 or iPhone,same thing for iPhone 3G as we know it is second iPhone not 3rd gen,3rd gen is the iPhone which we call 3GS please help as i m very confused about this old models.
Maybe it should go as follow? --[[User:Wites OM Tesla|iTesla]] ([[User talk:Wites OM Tesla|talk]]) 21:11, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
iPhone 1
iPhone 2
iPhone 3
iPhone 4
iPhone 4S
iPhone 5
iPhone 5C
iPhone 5S
{{unsigned|Wites OM Tesla|20:41, 2 November 2014 (UTC)}}
:The first iPhone was just called "iPhone". Then the second generation came around, and Apple dubbed it the "iPhone 3G" because it added support for 3G networks (compared to the original supporting just EDGE (2.5G)). It's unclear when the original was dubbed the "iPhone 2G" (after the 3G or 3GS), but the "2G" moniker was added because: (1) it came before the 3G, and (2) EDGE, although 2.5G, is sometimes called 2G because it came before 3G. After the "iPhone 3G" was the "iPhone 3GS" ("S" standing for "speed" due to a faster processor and more RAM). After that was the "iPhone 4", then the "iPhone 4S" ("S" not for processor "speed" this time, but probably because a newer processor is inherently faster at the same clock rate). After that was the "iPhone 5", then the (note the lowercase letters) "iPhone 5s" (again, "s" for "speed") and "iPhone 5c" ("c" for "color"). After those, we got the "iPhone 6" and the "iPhone 6 Plus" ("plus" because it's bigger). Hope that clears things up for you. --[[User:5urd|5urd]] ([[User talk:5urd|talk]]) 20:56, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

Talk:Models

2014-11-02T20:41:14Z

Wites OM Tesla: /* Real names of iPhone? */ new section

== Removed models ==
Dialexio, you removed some models. I created the list based on infos in this wiki. I didn't know though if every storage size exists with every color and every combination with both bootroms. Based on what info did you remove the non-existent rows? It seems you removed too many of them. I just saw that my old 3GS, black, new bootrom, 32GB, is a MC133 and is no more listed. Can you please re-check those you removed? Thanks. -- [[User:Http|http]] 07:43, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
:Whoops. For some reason, I was thinking that only 8 GB units had the new bootrom at that time. :s --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] 15:37, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

== Another model number ==
I think on this page we should also add the other model numbers (like the A1332 for the iPhone 4 black) somehow. How are they related? -- [[User:Http|http]] 15:24, 13 October 2011 (MDT)
:They are added in the meantime. --[[User:Http|http]] 00:28, 31 October 2012 (MDT)

== iPhone 4S ==
According to the [http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/iPhone-4S-Teardown/6610/1 iFitIt Teardown], the model number for the [[n92ap|iPhone 4S]] is A1387... --[[User:5urd|5urd]] 07:23, 14 October 2011 (MDT)
:For which 4S model? Color, memory? Or for all the same? Do you know more? -- [[User:Http|http]] 10:59, 14 October 2011 (MDT)
::Well, the teardown is black... I am guessing sinse they dont use the devices, it would be 8GB... But A1387 sounds like the hardware model, not the device model that starts with <code>MB</code> or <code>MC</code>... So all iPhone 4S's may be A1387... --[[User:5urd|5urd]] 15:37, 14 October 2011 (MDT)
:I also have an A1387. I would like to add this number in the list as well. But currently I have no infos. We don't know if this model is different for different memory, color, bootrom, production facility, or for what. Please post here, if you know more or if you have other numbers. This number is engraved on the phone itself (backside). There's also a code "EMC 2430". Let us know if you have a different number there. -- [[User:Http|http]] 05:05, 23 December 2011 (MST)
::My A1387 is also EMC 2430. It's a black AT&T 16GB [[User:Beej|beej]] 09:24, 23 December 2011 (MST)

== iPad 3 and Apple TV 3G ==

MD328LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 16GB WHITE – USA
MC705LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 16GB BLACK - USA
MD329LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 32GB WHITE – USA
MD706LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 32GB BLACK - USA
MD330LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 64GB WHITE - USA
MC707LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 64GB BLACK - USA

MD366LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 4G 16GB BLACK - USA
MD369LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 16GB WHITE - USA
MD367LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 4G 32GB BLACK - USA
MD370LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 32GB WHITE - USA
MD368LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 4G 64GB BLACK - USA
MD371LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 64GB WHITE - USA

MD098LL/A – APPLE DIGITAL AV ADAPTER
MD199LL/A – APPLE TV – USA
--[[User:5urd|5urd]] 19:43, 9 March 2012 (MST)

:And because Verizon Wireless must get their own special version, causing everybody more headaches…
MC733LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 16GB BLACK - USA
MD363LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 16GB WHITE - USA
MC744LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 32GB BLACK - USA
MD364LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 32GB WHITE - USA
MC756LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 64GB BLACK - USA
MD365LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 64GB WHITE - USA
:--[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] 20:04, 9 March 2012 (MST)
::So would I be right in assuming that the ones on mine are AT&T --[[User:5urd|5urd]] 23:05, 9 March 2012 (MST)
:::Yeah. --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] 00:41, 10 March 2012 (MST)

== Cutting up the table ==
In direct contrast to what I'd like to do on the Firmware page, I would like to divide this table by device type. I feel that it'd be a bit easier to maintain (and perhaps find information) if we had different tables for Apple TVs, iPads, iPad minis(?), iPhones, and iPod touches. --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] 22:22, 30 October 2012 (MDT)
:I would like to keep the basic structure of the table as it is. But yes, it may be separated by device type, as this is the left-most column and therefore wouldn't change anything. --[[User:Http|http]] 00:24, 31 October 2012 (MDT)
:Done --[[User:5urd|5urd]] 16:32, 31 October 2012 (MDT)

== [[iPhone 5]] China ==
Please see [http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3939 Apple KB HT3939]. There is no GSM model it is just CDMA. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 08:37, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
:Perhaps this topic requires more information, particularly from somebody with an A1442 iPhone. At this time, there are two carriers in China that offer the iPhone: China Telecom and China Unicom.[http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1937] [http://store.apple.com/cn/browse/home/shop_iphone/family/iphone5 Apple's online store] suggests they have two models: the China Unicom model is GSM-unlocked, while the China Telecom model (the one with the new ME model numbers) is locked. Since China Telecom's model is locked and they have a CDMA network, it may be possible that the A1442 model is a CDMA-only variant. However, http://www.apple.com.cn/iphone/specs.html does mention that all models have support for various HSPA technologies, and it doesn't seem plausible for Apple to go out of their way to remove GSM functionality from a design that can already handle GSM and CDMA connections. Plus, it's not entirely clear if it can actually be unlocked in the future (a la Verizon and the iPhone 4S). --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|talk]]) 09:57, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
:: That is strange as the two website contradict each other. I think we should wait for someone with one too. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 11:48, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
:Let me provide some insight on the internals here. Internally, the baseband chip is able to support ''both'' GSM and CDMA. It's up to the baseband firmware to choose what to use. There are two [[IPSW File Format|IPSW]]s for each release as one contains the baseband firmware to support the GSM LTE bands in the United States. The other (Global) contains the baseband firmware to support the GSM bands outside of the United States and the CDMA bands across the world (where the [[iPhone 5]] has been release). This means that all devices support GSM. So, even if the device was released in China where it is only CDMA (and the device was modified to only work on China CDMA), the Global firmware still contains GSM support. That's just my though here. The only exception here would be if the China [[iPhone 5]] didn't work with ''both'' [[n41ap|iPhone5,1]] and [[n42ap|iPhone5,2]] firmwares, but it does (iPhone5,2). --[[User:5urd|5urd]] ([[User talk:5urd|talk]]) 18:44, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

=== iPhone 5s China ===
There are also currently at least two 5s versions in China (http://store.apple.com/cn/buy-iphone/iphone5s)
* WCDMA/GSM iPhone A1528 (for China Unicom ??)
* iPhone A1533 (for China Telecom ??)

Just as reference I have a A1457 (got it in Germany), but it will not connect to the new 4G LTE in China Mobile network (even so I have a LTE sim card). According to China Mobile the A1530 (Hongkong version) can be used possibly in LTE (China Mobile) mode.--[[User:M2m|M2m]] ([[User talk:M2m|talk]]) 08:10, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

http://www.apple.com/iphone/LTE/ as reference. --[[User:M2m|M2m]] ([[User talk:M2m|talk]]) 08:17, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

== Finding new devices. ==

I was wondering how do you find the new device numbers like iPhone5,2? I know there is an info.plist but I'm not sure where it is located. Does this one update itself or what? --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 18:31, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

== Connector ==

So how do we add the iAccy1,2, A1438, with the [[S5L8747]] everywhere? It's not running [[iOS]], but still belongs into this wiki I think. --[[User:Http|http]] ([[User talk:Http|talk]]) 00:58, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
:I think that setting up the adapter's page similarly to the baseband pages (at [[iAccy1,2]]? I don't think it belongs on the SoC's page) would work best. The page can have a blurb about the accessory, a list of known firmware versions, and then the OTA updates. --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|talk]]) 01:41, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

== Bootrom versions. ==

How do w check the bootrom version of A5+? --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 23:57, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
:The same way as always: DFU Mode. The S5L8942 (at least the one found in the [[j33ap|Apple TV 3G]]) doesn't report a bootrom version, however. --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|talk]]) 00:09, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
:: System Profiler on Mac does not show it for iPod touch 5. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 00:15, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

== iPhone3,2 ==

Do we actually know that these are model numbers for the iPhone3,2, or is this just blind speculation like what happened with identifying the [[S5L8947]]? --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|talk]]) 22:24, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
:From store.apple.com. They are legit. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 22:53, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
::They could still be iPhone3,1 models though… The iPad2,4 case was about this simple, but Apple likes using a lot of various model numbers for each iPhone (much more than an iPad, anyways). Maybe I'm being too paranoid about this though. (Something to note is that some of the listed model numbers overlap with the iPhone3,1.) --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|talk]]) 04:12, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
:::Deleted them. I just left the ME as they are different. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 07:49, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

== iPhone BRD (board) Versions! ==

'''iPhone 6'''

As a hardware technician i found there are different version of BRD (board) layout of component placement.
1st:820-3486 unknown yet
2nd:820-3675 unknown yet
3rd:920-00203 unknown yet
'''iPhone 5S'''
1st:820-3382 EU region,Bertone MLB Placement.
2nd:820-3292 US region,Zagato MLB Placement.
There is a third version of layout but i never see it.

'''iPhone 5C'''
1st:820-3581 EU region
2nd:820-3928 US region
'''iPhone 5'''
1st:820-3141 US,EU region
: oh? what exactly changed between the two models? --[[User:Haifisch|Haifisch]] ([[User talk:Haifisch|talk]]) 20:31, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
::The differences are between Network and Wi-Fi parts maybe something else i not know. [[User:Wites Om Tesla|Wites OM Tesla]] 22:21, 14 September 2014 (UTC+3)

== Real names of iPhone? ==

Hi all have a question,does someone know what are the real names of apple devices?
I m developing hardware step by step solutions and i write in each for example iPhone 2G No Backlight Solution. I wonder is this true or not because it is first iPhone maybe name it just iPhone 1 or iPhone,same thing for iPhone 3G as we know it is second iPhone not 3rd gen,3rd gen is the iPhone which we call 3GS please help as i m very confused about this old models.
Maybe it should go as follow?
iPhone 1
iPhone 2
iPhone 3
iPhone 4
iPhone 4S
iPhone 5
iPhone 5C
iPhone 5S

Talk:Models

2014-10-20T19:05:06Z

Wites OM Tesla: /* iPhone BRD (board) Versions! */

== Removed models ==
Dialexio, you removed some models. I created the list based on infos in this wiki. I didn't know though if every storage size exists with every color and every combination with both bootroms. Based on what info did you remove the non-existent rows? It seems you removed too many of them. I just saw that my old 3GS, black, new bootrom, 32GB, is a MC133 and is no more listed. Can you please re-check those you removed? Thanks. -- [[User:Http|http]] 07:43, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
:Whoops. For some reason, I was thinking that only 8 GB units had the new bootrom at that time. :s --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] 15:37, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

== Another model number ==
I think on this page we should also add the other model numbers (like the A1332 for the iPhone 4 black) somehow. How are they related? -- [[User:Http|http]] 15:24, 13 October 2011 (MDT)
:They are added in the meantime. --[[User:Http|http]] 00:28, 31 October 2012 (MDT)

== iPhone 4S ==
According to the [http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/iPhone-4S-Teardown/6610/1 iFitIt Teardown], the model number for the [[n92ap|iPhone 4S]] is A1387... --[[User:5urd|5urd]] 07:23, 14 October 2011 (MDT)
:For which 4S model? Color, memory? Or for all the same? Do you know more? -- [[User:Http|http]] 10:59, 14 October 2011 (MDT)
::Well, the teardown is black... I am guessing sinse they dont use the devices, it would be 8GB... But A1387 sounds like the hardware model, not the device model that starts with <code>MB</code> or <code>MC</code>... So all iPhone 4S's may be A1387... --[[User:5urd|5urd]] 15:37, 14 October 2011 (MDT)
:I also have an A1387. I would like to add this number in the list as well. But currently I have no infos. We don't know if this model is different for different memory, color, bootrom, production facility, or for what. Please post here, if you know more or if you have other numbers. This number is engraved on the phone itself (backside). There's also a code "EMC 2430". Let us know if you have a different number there. -- [[User:Http|http]] 05:05, 23 December 2011 (MST)
::My A1387 is also EMC 2430. It's a black AT&T 16GB [[User:Beej|beej]] 09:24, 23 December 2011 (MST)

== iPad 3 and Apple TV 3G ==

MD328LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 16GB WHITE – USA
MC705LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 16GB BLACK - USA
MD329LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 32GB WHITE – USA
MD706LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 32GB BLACK - USA
MD330LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 64GB WHITE - USA
MC707LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 64GB BLACK - USA

MD366LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 4G 16GB BLACK - USA
MD369LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 16GB WHITE - USA
MD367LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 4G 32GB BLACK - USA
MD370LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 32GB WHITE - USA
MD368LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 4G 64GB BLACK - USA
MD371LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 64GB WHITE - USA

MD098LL/A – APPLE DIGITAL AV ADAPTER
MD199LL/A – APPLE TV – USA
--[[User:5urd|5urd]] 19:43, 9 March 2012 (MST)

:And because Verizon Wireless must get their own special version, causing everybody more headaches…
MC733LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 16GB BLACK - USA
MD363LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 16GB WHITE - USA
MC744LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 32GB BLACK - USA
MD364LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 32GB WHITE - USA
MC756LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 64GB BLACK - USA
MD365LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 64GB WHITE - USA
:--[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] 20:04, 9 March 2012 (MST)
::So would I be right in assuming that the ones on mine are AT&T --[[User:5urd|5urd]] 23:05, 9 March 2012 (MST)
:::Yeah. --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] 00:41, 10 March 2012 (MST)

== Cutting up the table ==
In direct contrast to what I'd like to do on the Firmware page, I would like to divide this table by device type. I feel that it'd be a bit easier to maintain (and perhaps find information) if we had different tables for Apple TVs, iPads, iPad minis(?), iPhones, and iPod touches. --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] 22:22, 30 October 2012 (MDT)
:I would like to keep the basic structure of the table as it is. But yes, it may be separated by device type, as this is the left-most column and therefore wouldn't change anything. --[[User:Http|http]] 00:24, 31 October 2012 (MDT)
:Done --[[User:5urd|5urd]] 16:32, 31 October 2012 (MDT)

== [[iPhone 5]] China ==
Please see [http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3939 Apple KB HT3939]. There is no GSM model it is just CDMA. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 08:37, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
:Perhaps this topic requires more information, particularly from somebody with an A1442 iPhone. At this time, there are two carriers in China that offer the iPhone: China Telecom and China Unicom.[http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1937] [http://store.apple.com/cn/browse/home/shop_iphone/family/iphone5 Apple's online store] suggests they have two models: the China Unicom model is GSM-unlocked, while the China Telecom model (the one with the new ME model numbers) is locked. Since China Telecom's model is locked and they have a CDMA network, it may be possible that the A1442 model is a CDMA-only variant. However, http://www.apple.com.cn/iphone/specs.html does mention that all models have support for various HSPA technologies, and it doesn't seem plausible for Apple to go out of their way to remove GSM functionality from a design that can already handle GSM and CDMA connections. Plus, it's not entirely clear if it can actually be unlocked in the future (a la Verizon and the iPhone 4S). --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|talk]]) 09:57, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
:: That is strange as the two website contradict each other. I think we should wait for someone with one too. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 11:48, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
:Let me provide some insight on the internals here. Internally, the baseband chip is able to support ''both'' GSM and CDMA. It's up to the baseband firmware to choose what to use. There are two [[IPSW File Format|IPSW]]s for each release as one contains the baseband firmware to support the GSM LTE bands in the United States. The other (Global) contains the baseband firmware to support the GSM bands outside of the United States and the CDMA bands across the world (where the [[iPhone 5]] has been release). This means that all devices support GSM. So, even if the device was released in China where it is only CDMA (and the device was modified to only work on China CDMA), the Global firmware still contains GSM support. That's just my though here. The only exception here would be if the China [[iPhone 5]] didn't work with ''both'' [[n41ap|iPhone5,1]] and [[n42ap|iPhone5,2]] firmwares, but it does (iPhone5,2). --[[User:5urd|5urd]] ([[User talk:5urd|talk]]) 18:44, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

=== iPhone 5s China ===
There are also currently at least two 5s versions in China (http://store.apple.com/cn/buy-iphone/iphone5s)
* WCDMA/GSM iPhone A1528 (for China Unicom ??)
* iPhone A1533 (for China Telecom ??)

Just as reference I have a A1457 (got it in Germany), but it will not connect to the new 4G LTE in China Mobile network (even so I have a LTE sim card). According to China Mobile the A1530 (Hongkong version) can be used possibly in LTE (China Mobile) mode.--[[User:M2m|M2m]] ([[User talk:M2m|talk]]) 08:10, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

http://www.apple.com/iphone/LTE/ as reference. --[[User:M2m|M2m]] ([[User talk:M2m|talk]]) 08:17, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

== Finding new devices. ==

I was wondering how do you find the new device numbers like iPhone5,2? I know there is an info.plist but I'm not sure where it is located. Does this one update itself or what? --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 18:31, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

== Connector ==

So how do we add the iAccy1,2, A1438, with the [[S5L8747]] everywhere? It's not running [[iOS]], but still belongs into this wiki I think. --[[User:Http|http]] ([[User talk:Http|talk]]) 00:58, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
:I think that setting up the adapter's page similarly to the baseband pages (at [[iAccy1,2]]? I don't think it belongs on the SoC's page) would work best. The page can have a blurb about the accessory, a list of known firmware versions, and then the OTA updates. --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|talk]]) 01:41, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

== Bootrom versions. ==

How do w check the bootrom version of A5+? --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 23:57, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
:The same way as always: DFU Mode. The S5L8942 (at least the one found in the [[j33ap|Apple TV 3G]]) doesn't report a bootrom version, however. --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|talk]]) 00:09, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
:: System Profiler on Mac does not show it for iPod touch 5. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 00:15, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

== iPhone3,2 ==

Do we actually know that these are model numbers for the iPhone3,2, or is this just blind speculation like what happened with identifying the [[S5L8947]]? --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|talk]]) 22:24, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
:From store.apple.com. They are legit. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 22:53, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
::They could still be iPhone3,1 models though… The iPad2,4 case was about this simple, but Apple likes using a lot of various model numbers for each iPhone (much more than an iPad, anyways). Maybe I'm being too paranoid about this though. (Something to note is that some of the listed model numbers overlap with the iPhone3,1.) --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|talk]]) 04:12, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
:::Deleted them. I just left the ME as they are different. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 07:49, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

== iPhone BRD (board) Versions! ==

'''iPhone 6'''

As a hardware technician i found there are different version of BRD (board) layout of component placement.
1st:820-3486 unknown yet
2nd:820-3675 unknown yet
3rd:920-00203 unknown yet
'''iPhone 5S'''
1st:820-3382 EU region,Bertone MLB Placement.
2nd:820-3292 US region,Zagato MLB Placement.
There is a third version of layout but i never see it.

'''iPhone 5C'''
1st:820-3581 EU region
2nd:820-3928 US region
'''iPhone 5'''
1st:820-3141 US,EU region
: oh? what exactly changed between the two models? --[[User:Haifisch|Haifisch]] ([[User talk:Haifisch|talk]]) 20:31, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
::The differences are between Network and Wi-Fi parts maybe something else i not know. [[User:Wites Om Tesla|Wites OM Tesla]] 22:21, 14 September 2014 (UTC+3)

User:Wites OM Tesla

2014-10-20T18:45:19Z

Wites OM Tesla: Created page with "My name is Filip, i m 28 years old micro soldering hardware technician,at the moment i work for a site developing iPod,iPhone,iPad step by step solutions in photos."

My name is Filip, i m 28 years old micro soldering hardware technician,at the moment i work for a site developing iPod,iPhone,iPad step by step solutions in photos.

Talk:Models

2014-09-14T19:22:01Z

Wites OM Tesla: /* iPhone BRD (board) Versions! */

== Removed models ==
Dialexio, you removed some models. I created the list based on infos in this wiki. I didn't know though if every storage size exists with every color and every combination with both bootroms. Based on what info did you remove the non-existent rows? It seems you removed too many of them. I just saw that my old 3GS, black, new bootrom, 32GB, is a MC133 and is no more listed. Can you please re-check those you removed? Thanks. -- [[User:Http|http]] 07:43, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
:Whoops. For some reason, I was thinking that only 8 GB units had the new bootrom at that time. :s --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] 15:37, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

== Another model number ==
I think on this page we should also add the other model numbers (like the A1332 for the iPhone 4 black) somehow. How are they related? -- [[User:Http|http]] 15:24, 13 October 2011 (MDT)
:They are added in the meantime. --[[User:Http|http]] 00:28, 31 October 2012 (MDT)

== iPhone 4S ==
According to the [http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/iPhone-4S-Teardown/6610/1 iFitIt Teardown], the model number for the [[n92ap|iPhone 4S]] is A1387... --[[User:5urd|5urd]] 07:23, 14 October 2011 (MDT)
:For which 4S model? Color, memory? Or for all the same? Do you know more? -- [[User:Http|http]] 10:59, 14 October 2011 (MDT)
::Well, the teardown is black... I am guessing sinse they dont use the devices, it would be 8GB... But A1387 sounds like the hardware model, not the device model that starts with <code>MB</code> or <code>MC</code>... So all iPhone 4S's may be A1387... --[[User:5urd|5urd]] 15:37, 14 October 2011 (MDT)
:I also have an A1387. I would like to add this number in the list as well. But currently I have no infos. We don't know if this model is different for different memory, color, bootrom, production facility, or for what. Please post here, if you know more or if you have other numbers. This number is engraved on the phone itself (backside). There's also a code "EMC 2430". Let us know if you have a different number there. -- [[User:Http|http]] 05:05, 23 December 2011 (MST)
::My A1387 is also EMC 2430. It's a black AT&T 16GB [[User:Beej|beej]] 09:24, 23 December 2011 (MST)

== iPad 3 and Apple TV 3G ==

MD328LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 16GB WHITE – USA
MC705LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 16GB BLACK - USA
MD329LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 32GB WHITE – USA
MD706LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 32GB BLACK - USA
MD330LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 64GB WHITE - USA
MC707LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 64GB BLACK - USA

MD366LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 4G 16GB BLACK - USA
MD369LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 16GB WHITE - USA
MD367LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 4G 32GB BLACK - USA
MD370LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 32GB WHITE - USA
MD368LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 4G 64GB BLACK - USA
MD371LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 64GB WHITE - USA

MD098LL/A – APPLE DIGITAL AV ADAPTER
MD199LL/A – APPLE TV – USA
--[[User:5urd|5urd]] 19:43, 9 March 2012 (MST)

:And because Verizon Wireless must get their own special version, causing everybody more headaches…
MC733LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 16GB BLACK - USA
MD363LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 16GB WHITE - USA
MC744LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 32GB BLACK - USA
MD364LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 32GB WHITE - USA
MC756LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 64GB BLACK - USA
MD365LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 64GB WHITE - USA
:--[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] 20:04, 9 March 2012 (MST)
::So would I be right in assuming that the ones on mine are AT&T --[[User:5urd|5urd]] 23:05, 9 March 2012 (MST)
:::Yeah. --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] 00:41, 10 March 2012 (MST)

== Cutting up the table ==
In direct contrast to what I'd like to do on the Firmware page, I would like to divide this table by device type. I feel that it'd be a bit easier to maintain (and perhaps find information) if we had different tables for Apple TVs, iPads, iPad minis(?), iPhones, and iPod touches. --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] 22:22, 30 October 2012 (MDT)
:I would like to keep the basic structure of the table as it is. But yes, it may be separated by device type, as this is the left-most column and therefore wouldn't change anything. --[[User:Http|http]] 00:24, 31 October 2012 (MDT)
:Done --[[User:5urd|5urd]] 16:32, 31 October 2012 (MDT)

== [[iPhone 5]] China ==
Please see [http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3939 Apple KB HT3939]. There is no GSM model it is just CDMA. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 08:37, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
:Perhaps this topic requires more information, particularly from somebody with an A1442 iPhone. At this time, there are two carriers in China that offer the iPhone: China Telecom and China Unicom.[http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1937] [http://store.apple.com/cn/browse/home/shop_iphone/family/iphone5 Apple's online store] suggests they have two models: the China Unicom model is GSM-unlocked, while the China Telecom model (the one with the new ME model numbers) is locked. Since China Telecom's model is locked and they have a CDMA network, it may be possible that the A1442 model is a CDMA-only variant. However, http://www.apple.com.cn/iphone/specs.html does mention that all models have support for various HSPA technologies, and it doesn't seem plausible for Apple to go out of their way to remove GSM functionality from a design that can already handle GSM and CDMA connections. Plus, it's not entirely clear if it can actually be unlocked in the future (a la Verizon and the iPhone 4S). --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|talk]]) 09:57, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
:: That is strange as the two website contradict each other. I think we should wait for someone with one too. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 11:48, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
:Let me provide some insight on the internals here. Internally, the baseband chip is able to support ''both'' GSM and CDMA. It's up to the baseband firmware to choose what to use. There are two [[IPSW File Format|IPSW]]s for each release as one contains the baseband firmware to support the GSM LTE bands in the United States. The other (Global) contains the baseband firmware to support the GSM bands outside of the United States and the CDMA bands across the world (where the [[iPhone 5]] has been release). This means that all devices support GSM. So, even if the device was released in China where it is only CDMA (and the device was modified to only work on China CDMA), the Global firmware still contains GSM support. That's just my though here. The only exception here would be if the China [[iPhone 5]] didn't work with ''both'' [[n41ap|iPhone5,1]] and [[n42ap|iPhone5,2]] firmwares, but it does (iPhone5,2). --[[User:5urd|5urd]] ([[User talk:5urd|talk]]) 18:44, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

=== iPhone 5s China ===
There are also currently at least two 5s versions in China (http://store.apple.com/cn/buy-iphone/iphone5s)
* WCDMA/GSM iPhone A1528 (for China Unicom ??)
* iPhone A1533 (for China Telecom ??)

Just as reference I have a A1457 (got it in Germany), but it will not connect to the new 4G LTE in China Mobile network (even so I have a LTE sim card). According to China Mobile the A1530 (Hongkong version) can be used possibly in LTE (China Mobile) mode.--[[User:M2m|M2m]] ([[User talk:M2m|talk]]) 08:10, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

http://www.apple.com/iphone/LTE/ as reference. --[[User:M2m|M2m]] ([[User talk:M2m|talk]]) 08:17, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

== Finding new devices. ==

I was wondering how do you find the new device numbers like iPhone5,2? I know there is an info.plist but I'm not sure where it is located. Does this one update itself or what? --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 18:31, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

== Connector ==

So how do we add the iAccy1,2, A1438, with the [[S5L8747]] everywhere? It's not running [[iOS]], but still belongs into this wiki I think. --[[User:Http|http]] ([[User talk:Http|talk]]) 00:58, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
:I think that setting up the adapter's page similarly to the baseband pages (at [[iAccy1,2]]? I don't think it belongs on the SoC's page) would work best. The page can have a blurb about the accessory, a list of known firmware versions, and then the OTA updates. --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|talk]]) 01:41, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

== Bootrom versions. ==

How do w check the bootrom version of A5+? --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 23:57, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
:The same way as always: DFU Mode. The S5L8942 (at least the one found in the [[j33ap|Apple TV 3G]]) doesn't report a bootrom version, however. --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|talk]]) 00:09, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
:: System Profiler on Mac does not show it for iPod touch 5. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 00:15, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

== iPhone3,2 ==

Do we actually know that these are model numbers for the iPhone3,2, or is this just blind speculation like what happened with identifying the [[S5L8947]]? --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|talk]]) 22:24, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
:From store.apple.com. They are legit. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 22:53, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
::They could still be iPhone3,1 models though… The iPad2,4 case was about this simple, but Apple likes using a lot of various model numbers for each iPhone (much more than an iPad, anyways). Maybe I'm being too paranoid about this though. (Something to note is that some of the listed model numbers overlap with the iPhone3,1.) --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|talk]]) 04:12, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
:::Deleted them. I just left the ME as they are different. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 07:49, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

== iPhone BRD (board) Versions! ==

As a hardware technician i found there are different version of BRD (board) layout of component placement.
'''iPhone 6'''
1st:820-3486 unknown yet
2nd:820-3675 unknown yet
3rd:920-00203 unknown yet
'''iPhone 5S'''
1st:820-3382 EU region,Bertone MLB Placement.
2nd:820-3292 US region,Zagato MLB Placement.
There is a third version of layout but i never see it.
'''iPhone 5C'''
1st:820-3581 EU region
2nd:820-3928 US region
: oh? what exactly changed between the two models? --[[User:Haifisch|Haifisch]] ([[User talk:Haifisch|talk]]) 20:31, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
::The differences are between Network and Wi-Fi parts maybe something else i not know. [[User:Wites Om Tesla|Wites OM Tesla]] 22:21, 14 September 2014 (UTC+3)

Talk:Models

2014-09-11T20:26:46Z

Wites OM Tesla: /* iPhone BRD (board) Versions! */ new section

== Removed models ==
Dialexio, you removed some models. I created the list based on infos in this wiki. I didn't know though if every storage size exists with every color and every combination with both bootroms. Based on what info did you remove the non-existent rows? It seems you removed too many of them. I just saw that my old 3GS, black, new bootrom, 32GB, is a MC133 and is no more listed. Can you please re-check those you removed? Thanks. -- [[User:Http|http]] 07:43, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
:Whoops. For some reason, I was thinking that only 8 GB units had the new bootrom at that time. :s --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] 15:37, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

== Another model number ==
I think on this page we should also add the other model numbers (like the A1332 for the iPhone 4 black) somehow. How are they related? -- [[User:Http|http]] 15:24, 13 October 2011 (MDT)
:They are added in the meantime. --[[User:Http|http]] 00:28, 31 October 2012 (MDT)

== iPhone 4S ==
According to the [http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/iPhone-4S-Teardown/6610/1 iFitIt Teardown], the model number for the [[n92ap|iPhone 4S]] is A1387... --[[User:5urd|5urd]] 07:23, 14 October 2011 (MDT)
:For which 4S model? Color, memory? Or for all the same? Do you know more? -- [[User:Http|http]] 10:59, 14 October 2011 (MDT)
::Well, the teardown is black... I am guessing sinse they dont use the devices, it would be 8GB... But A1387 sounds like the hardware model, not the device model that starts with <code>MB</code> or <code>MC</code>... So all iPhone 4S's may be A1387... --[[User:5urd|5urd]] 15:37, 14 October 2011 (MDT)
:I also have an A1387. I would like to add this number in the list as well. But currently I have no infos. We don't know if this model is different for different memory, color, bootrom, production facility, or for what. Please post here, if you know more or if you have other numbers. This number is engraved on the phone itself (backside). There's also a code "EMC 2430". Let us know if you have a different number there. -- [[User:Http|http]] 05:05, 23 December 2011 (MST)
::My A1387 is also EMC 2430. It's a black AT&T 16GB [[User:Beej|beej]] 09:24, 23 December 2011 (MST)

== iPad 3 and Apple TV 3G ==

MD328LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 16GB WHITE – USA
MC705LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 16GB BLACK - USA
MD329LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 32GB WHITE – USA
MD706LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 32GB BLACK - USA
MD330LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 64GB WHITE - USA
MC707LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 64GB BLACK - USA

MD366LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 4G 16GB BLACK - USA
MD369LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 16GB WHITE - USA
MD367LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 4G 32GB BLACK - USA
MD370LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 32GB WHITE - USA
MD368LL/A – IPAD WI-FI 4G 64GB BLACK - USA
MD371LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 64GB WHITE - USA

MD098LL/A – APPLE DIGITAL AV ADAPTER
MD199LL/A – APPLE TV – USA
--[[User:5urd|5urd]] 19:43, 9 March 2012 (MST)

:And because Verizon Wireless must get their own special version, causing everybody more headaches…
MC733LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 16GB BLACK - USA
MD363LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 16GB WHITE - USA
MC744LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 32GB BLACK - USA
MD364LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 32GB WHITE - USA
MC756LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 64GB BLACK - USA
MD365LL/A - IPAD WI-FI 4G 64GB WHITE - USA
:--[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] 20:04, 9 March 2012 (MST)
::So would I be right in assuming that the ones on mine are AT&T --[[User:5urd|5urd]] 23:05, 9 March 2012 (MST)
:::Yeah. --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] 00:41, 10 March 2012 (MST)

== Cutting up the table ==
In direct contrast to what I'd like to do on the Firmware page, I would like to divide this table by device type. I feel that it'd be a bit easier to maintain (and perhaps find information) if we had different tables for Apple TVs, iPads, iPad minis(?), iPhones, and iPod touches. --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] 22:22, 30 October 2012 (MDT)
:I would like to keep the basic structure of the table as it is. But yes, it may be separated by device type, as this is the left-most column and therefore wouldn't change anything. --[[User:Http|http]] 00:24, 31 October 2012 (MDT)
:Done --[[User:5urd|5urd]] 16:32, 31 October 2012 (MDT)

== [[iPhone 5]] China ==
Please see [http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3939 Apple KB HT3939]. There is no GSM model it is just CDMA. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 08:37, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
:Perhaps this topic requires more information, particularly from somebody with an A1442 iPhone. At this time, there are two carriers in China that offer the iPhone: China Telecom and China Unicom.[http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1937] [http://store.apple.com/cn/browse/home/shop_iphone/family/iphone5 Apple's online store] suggests they have two models: the China Unicom model is GSM-unlocked, while the China Telecom model (the one with the new ME model numbers) is locked. Since China Telecom's model is locked and they have a CDMA network, it may be possible that the A1442 model is a CDMA-only variant. However, http://www.apple.com.cn/iphone/specs.html does mention that all models have support for various HSPA technologies, and it doesn't seem plausible for Apple to go out of their way to remove GSM functionality from a design that can already handle GSM and CDMA connections. Plus, it's not entirely clear if it can actually be unlocked in the future (a la Verizon and the iPhone 4S). --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|talk]]) 09:57, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
:: That is strange as the two website contradict each other. I think we should wait for someone with one too. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 11:48, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
:Let me provide some insight on the internals here. Internally, the baseband chip is able to support ''both'' GSM and CDMA. It's up to the baseband firmware to choose what to use. There are two [[IPSW File Format|IPSW]]s for each release as one contains the baseband firmware to support the GSM LTE bands in the United States. The other (Global) contains the baseband firmware to support the GSM bands outside of the United States and the CDMA bands across the world (where the [[iPhone 5]] has been release). This means that all devices support GSM. So, even if the device was released in China where it is only CDMA (and the device was modified to only work on China CDMA), the Global firmware still contains GSM support. That's just my though here. The only exception here would be if the China [[iPhone 5]] didn't work with ''both'' [[n41ap|iPhone5,1]] and [[n42ap|iPhone5,2]] firmwares, but it does (iPhone5,2). --[[User:5urd|5urd]] ([[User talk:5urd|talk]]) 18:44, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

=== iPhone 5s China ===
There are also currently at least two 5s versions in China (http://store.apple.com/cn/buy-iphone/iphone5s)
* WCDMA/GSM iPhone A1528 (for China Unicom ??)
* iPhone A1533 (for China Telecom ??)

Just as reference I have a A1457 (got it in Germany), but it will not connect to the new 4G LTE in China Mobile network (even so I have a LTE sim card). According to China Mobile the A1530 (Hongkong version) can be used possibly in LTE (China Mobile) mode.--[[User:M2m|M2m]] ([[User talk:M2m|talk]]) 08:10, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

http://www.apple.com/iphone/LTE/ as reference. --[[User:M2m|M2m]] ([[User talk:M2m|talk]]) 08:17, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

== Finding new devices. ==

I was wondering how do you find the new device numbers like iPhone5,2? I know there is an info.plist but I'm not sure where it is located. Does this one update itself or what? --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 18:31, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

== Connector ==

So how do we add the iAccy1,2, A1438, with the [[S5L8747]] everywhere? It's not running [[iOS]], but still belongs into this wiki I think. --[[User:Http|http]] ([[User talk:Http|talk]]) 00:58, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
:I think that setting up the adapter's page similarly to the baseband pages (at [[iAccy1,2]]? I don't think it belongs on the SoC's page) would work best. The page can have a blurb about the accessory, a list of known firmware versions, and then the OTA updates. --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|talk]]) 01:41, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

== Bootrom versions. ==

How do w check the bootrom version of A5+? --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 23:57, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
:The same way as always: DFU Mode. The S5L8942 (at least the one found in the [[j33ap|Apple TV 3G]]) doesn't report a bootrom version, however. --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|talk]]) 00:09, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
:: System Profiler on Mac does not show it for iPod touch 5. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 00:15, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

== iPhone3,2 ==

Do we actually know that these are model numbers for the iPhone3,2, or is this just blind speculation like what happened with identifying the [[S5L8947]]? --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|talk]]) 22:24, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
:From store.apple.com. They are legit. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 22:53, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
::They could still be iPhone3,1 models though… The iPad2,4 case was about this simple, but Apple likes using a lot of various model numbers for each iPhone (much more than an iPad, anyways). Maybe I'm being too paranoid about this though. (Something to note is that some of the listed model numbers overlap with the iPhone3,1.) --[[User:Dialexio|Dialexio]] ([[User talk:Dialexio|talk]]) 04:12, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
:::Deleted them. I just left the ME as they are different. --[[User:IAdam1n|iAdam1n]] ([[User talk:IAdam1n|talk]]) 07:49, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

== iPhone BRD (board) Versions! ==

As a hardware technician i found there are different version of BRD (board) layout of component placement.
iPhone 5S
1st:820-3382 from EU
2nd:820-3292 from US
There is a third version of layout but i never see it.
iPhone 5C
1st:820-3581 from EU
2nd:820-3928 from US

User talk:Wites OM Tesla

2014-05-04T11:06:55Z

Wites OM Tesla: /* Schematics */

User talk:Wites OM Tesla

2014-03-13T09:14:48Z

Wites OM Tesla: /* Schematics */ new section

== Schematics ==

Can we add a category of apple schematics?
At the moment i have for this models.
iPad 1
iPad 2
iPad 3
iPad 4
iPad Mini
iPhone 2G
iPhone 3G
iPhone 3GS
iPhone 4
iPhone 4 CDMA
iPhone 4S
iPhone 5
iPhone 5S