User:Pwnd-v1

2010-10-10T13:27:53Z

Pwnd-v1: /* My Gear */

== About Me ==

I am a contemporary hacker in the age of somewhere between 16-21
I live in Wellington, New Zealand with my dog, which is small and cute.
I play Squash and Badminton as sports, and I watch ''alot'' of movies.

== My Job(s) ==

I own two websites, manage 3 and build on demand.
I repair computers for the occasional cash boost, and fiddle around with broken electronic devices.

== My Gear ==

I own a Mac Mini 2009 High-End, and a Toshiba Satelite which sucks, but is good.
I also own a few crappy desktops and usual junk.
I own a ipt3g and my 3GS is broken due to me being stoned and fucking it up.

== Other ==

Insert shite here (don't take that literally admin(s))

== Where to find me ==

I am usually on irc.ih8sn0w.com and on irc.saurik.com

User:Pwnd-v1

2010-10-10T13:25:18Z

Pwnd-v1: /* Other */

== About Me ==

I am a contemporary hacker in the age of somewhere between 16-21
I live in Wellington, New Zealand with my dog, which is small and cute.
I play Squash and Badminton as sports, and I watch ''alot'' of movies.

== My Job(s) ==

I own two websites, manage 3 and build on demand.
I repair computers for the occasional cash boost, and fiddle around with broken electronic devices.

== My Gear ==

I own a Mac Mini 2009 High-End, and a Toshiba Satelite which sucks, but is good.
I also own a few crappy desktops and usual junk.

== Other ==

Insert shite here (don't take that literally admin(s))

== Where to find me ==

I am usually on irc.ih8sn0w.com and on irc.saurik.com

User:Pwnd-v1

2010-10-10T13:23:13Z

Pwnd-v1: New page: == About Me == I am a contemporary hacker in the age of somewhere between 16-21 I live in Wellington, New Zealand with my dog, which is small and cute. I play Squash and Badminton as spo...

== About Me ==

I am a contemporary hacker in the age of somewhere between 16-21
I live in Wellington, New Zealand with my dog, which is small and cute.
I play Squash and Badminton as sports, and I watch ''alot'' of movies.

== My Job(s) ==

I own two websites, manage 3 and build on demand.
I repair computers for the occasional cash boost, and fiddle around with broken electronic devices.

== My Gear ==

I own a Mac Mini 2009 High-End, and a Toshiba Satelite which sucks, but is good.
I also own a few crappy desktops and usual junk.

== Other ==

Insert shite here (don't take that literally admin(s))

User talk:Pwnd-v1

2010-10-10T13:14:25Z

Pwnd-v1: New page: Talk goddamnit! ~~~~

Talk goddamnit! [[User:Pwnd-v1|Pwnd-v1]] 13:14, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Limera1n

2010-10-10T13:12:40Z

Pwnd-v1: /* He did it */

== Drop size on image ==
Has anyone else noticed that on the picture, the lime raindrop us bigger than the rest of them? Could be nothing but could also mean that [[User:Geohot|geohot]] has worked out [[SHAtter]] and use it on the three A4 devices that are there and just used the photos app for the [[N88ap|3GS]].
Also (if it's real) why is [[User:Geohot|Geohots]] exploit not used and keep [[SHAtter]] for when there are more A4 devices around? --[[User:Shengis14|Shengis14]] 07:16, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
:I did see that and assume it's just the same image everywhere, but on retina display it's just smaller due to higher resolution. --[[User:Http|http]] 09:00, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
::I also saw that and would ask you to look at the image again. iPod Touch 4g and iPhone 4, both retina, have smaller... This could be because [[geohot]] has a problem with the program as he didn't create a @2x.png image... I believe this is a true jailbreK. [[User:Balloonhead66|Balloonhead66]] 13:57, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
:::In the dump, I found the lime drop and it is a 320x480 image. Therfore, when you jailbreak a retina device with a 320x480 it shrinks the image because there is no lime@2x.png file...

== Misc. ==
I think some more info may be needed. What is some background on it? I thought Limera1n was a fake from the 3.x days? --[[User:OMEGA RAZER|OMEGA RAZER]] 22:09, 8 October 2010 (UTC
:It was never fake see [http://theiphonewiki.com/limera1n http://theiphonewiki.com/limera1n] (a cached copy). --[[User:GreySyntax|GreySyntax]] 22:45, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
::Thanks for the clarification. Not sure where I heard that. --[[User:OMEGA RAZER|OMEGA RAZER]] 23:09, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
Geohot made the web page when 3.1.3 come out but he said it used a bootrom exploit for untetherdness that he was saving for the iPhone 4 --[[User:Liamchat|liamchat]] 22:53, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
Anything else we should mention? :P --[[User:Dra1nerdrake|dra1nerdrake]] 23:14, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
:Why the insane secrecy of it? I'm not deep in the scene but this is the first I'm hearing more than the name lol. --[[User:OMEGA RAZER|OMEGA RAZER]] 23:18, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

== Release ==

I thought geohot had no plans to release it... [[User:Balloonhead66|Balloonhead66]] 23:22, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
:Correct. Read the controversy section of this page. It should answer as to why the sudden change in heart. ~Drake

== SIGN YOUR COMMENTS ON THE TALK PAGE ==
Please press the button on top of the exit box or type <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> manually. This will give you the basic signature. It's also acceptable to just identify yourself. Just make sure we know who you are. ;P ~Drake

== Latest edit to [[Limera1n]] ==

How does it look like a tethered? -- Balloonhead66|23:34, October 8, 2010 (UTC)
:They're all plugged in with USB cables. --[[User:OMEGA RAZER|OMEGA RAZER]] 23:35, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
::They could just be charging and he is in the photos app -- Balloonhead66|23:41, October 8, 2010 (UTC)

== Who is John Galt? ==

Look at the HTML source of the page. Is this comment new? [[User:Angelo|Angelo]] 23:42, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
:Yep. I've looked at the source of this page before and after this update. The John Galt is probably meant to throw us off. Geohot does that. :P But, yes, it's new. ~Drake
::Where did you see that? [[User:Balloonhead66|Balloonhead66]] 23:50, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
:::Type in Firefox URL bar: view-source:http://limera1n.com/ [[User:Angelo|Angelo]] 23:47, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
::::Or google chrome for that matter :D . Anyway, I thought you meant the source of this page or the [[Limera1n]] page, not the website... *stupid* Thanks for explaining that! [[User:Balloonhead66|Balloonhead66]] 23:50, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Galt Who is John Galt] Kind of funny actually when you read it and what's going on right now --[[User:alpineflip|alpineflip]]
:::::: yes I see why "learns that all of the stories have an element of truth to them." maybe it will ra1n again but not today --[[User:Liamchat|liamchat]] 00:35, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

== Explanation ==

So, I'm sure most, if not all, of you are confused. This Limera1n is nothing more than a plot by geohot to get the chronic dev team to incorporate the exploit used in limera1n into greenpois0n. This is not plausible because the exploit in limera1n is a bootrom level exploit, which can be used to make a jailbreak (albeit [[tethered]]) on its own. To make greenpois0n untethered, chronic dev has used a tweak by comex (in userland) to patch the kernel. The exploit in Limera1n can be used at a later date to make another untethered jailbreak, but it's better to leave the lower level exploits until later, after all, either way, it produces the same affect. To implement the limera1n exploit into greenpois0n, they'd have to rewrite the entire jailbreak, which would offset the release. This should clear up confusion. ~Drake

I reckon it was the iphone dev teams fault if they just had to release spirit after the iphone 4 was released there would be no drama because the ipod touch 4 would hav been jailbroken via star. --[[User:Robinhood|robinhood]]

I think Geohot told someone about his exploit and apple attempted to patch it in a4 bootrom [http://mobile.twitter.com/musclenerd/status/26801617164] --[[User:Liamchat|liamchat]] 01:54, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

===UPDATE:===
A [http://twitter.com/#!/p0sixninja/status/26799962302 recent tweet] from iPhone hacker p0sixninja has just confirmed that the date WILL NOT be changed. If they can implement geohot's exploit before 10/10, they will use that. If they can't they won't. --[[User:Dra1nerdrake|dra1nerdrake]] 00:53, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
: This has nothing to-do with Limera1n. -- [[User:Shorty|Shorty]] 01:06, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
::It does. If they can integrate it into GP then there's not going to be a Limera1n. If they can't in time then there will be two jailbreaks released... --[[User:OMEGA RAZER|OMEGA RAZER]] 01:11, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
::: This is a grand waste of a bootrom exploit though. ~Drake
:::: Geohot will not waste the exploit's used in limera1n but greenpois0n is using a bootrom exploit to inject a userland exploit that is odd --[[User:Liamchat|liamchat]] 01:20, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::Yes it does limera1n will use an untetherd bootrom and iboot exploit but Why does Geohot not want us to use comex's kernel patch just for 4.1 then when 4.2 is out we can use shatter to reuse the iboot exploit --[[User:Liamchat|liamchat]] 01:20, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
::::::@[[User:Dra1nerdrake|dra1nerdrake]] - Sorry if I didn't make myself more clear, I was basically on about the first part, not the last bit. -- [[User:Shorty|Shorty]] 01:25, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
the exploit used by [[limera1n]] is a [[24kPwn]] like [[bootrom]] exploit and a [[IBoot]] exploit ( read the second to last paragraph [http://posixninja.blogspot.com/2010/06/latest-progress-and-new-updates.html] ) --[[User:Liamchat|liamchat]] 12:55, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

== Image Taken Down ==

I'm just speculating here. With all this controversy, I am on the edge of believing... Also, the image was taken down from the site... It gives you a bitly link that takes you back to the bitty link... --[[User:Balloonhead66|Balloonhead66]] 14:20, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

:It is now very real [[greenpois0n]] will be cancelled (said by [[MuscleNerd]] [http://twitter.com/MuscleNerd/status/26860163077 Twitter Status]) and [[Limera1n]] will be used to jailbreak on 4.1 but [[wikipedia:Apple Inc.|Apple]] knows about both exploit's but [[Geohot]]'s has already being patched (patched in 4.2 beta 2 iboot [http://twitter.com/MuscleNerd/status/26860634891]) --[[User:Liamchat|liamchat]] 19:21, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

::The exploit has not been patched though, but because of the code similarities geohot can tell his exploit will be patched anyway by iPad2,1 so he wants it to be used instead of wasted, greenpois0n and SHAtter should be kept as they will affect a larger crowd of iOS devices (assuming apple continue to use the A4 chip. --[[User:Shengis14|Shengis14]] 19:36, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

:::[[Geohot]]'s exploit will be used in [[greenpois0n]] if it can be utilised in time. Otherwise both exploits will be burned. In relation to the image being taken down, it was proving to be too popular, so imageshack moved it. --[[User:Mushroom|Mushroom]] 19:47, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

::::I dont think so we said a lot about [[SHAtter]] (if apple patch one of the three BSS+Heap+Stack the exploit wont work) so it may be to late to protect [[SHAtter]] but [[Geohot]]'s exploit was fixed in [[iBoot]] so [[wikipedia:Apple Inc.|Apple]] knows 100% what his exploit is --[[User:Liamchat|liamchat]] 20:06, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

== He did it==
It's in the wild. Thoughts? ~Drake
:It's just BETA2 though... --[[User:Balloonhead66|Balloonhead66]] 22:28, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
::Has anyone being able to grab information about the exploit we need to delete shatter and name the new dfu exploit --[[User:Liamchat|liamchat]] 23:22, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
:::BETA2 naming means nothing. We need to delete SHAtter? Wtf? And also this exploit will either be named by Geohot or by it's technical name (like Environment Variable Overflow). [[User:Iemit737|Iemit737]] 00:03, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
::::I'd like to disassemble this and see what's in that exe of his. Anyone take a gander into this magical land of software yet? The payload's bound to be in there somewhere. ~Drake
:::::A dump has been released by ih8sn0w, see links. So much for the protection he put on it. It uses the ramdisk from purplera1n ( lulz). You'll need IDA Pro... [[User:Pwnd-v1|Pwnd-v1]] 13:12, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

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